Ok then think about this: you say that making scatterguns 450 meters would still make them OP since most fighter duels happen within this range yes? Well, thats where a damage nerf to 600/300 comes in, as it would be the lowest damege dealing 4:0 in game. Any other 4:0 is faster and deals more damage. Now add the fact that Scattergun SCATTERS, so you get fewer shots in as well. You have a situation where VHF is almost certain to win. This is where balance comes in. If you are experianced and skilled, you might win against less skillful VHF. Most skilled fighters will still win a bomber, but atleast bomber would have had SOME chance.
2nd. Using 4 scatterguns would make you useles against almost anything, excluding Mastodon, Whale, Colossus and similar ships that have 3 weapon mounts or less. Using the new nerfed scatterguns against gunboats?? With 450 meters range?? Are you serious?? We all know that if the weapon range states 650 meters for instance, you dont hit at 650 meters, because you target the center of the ship, thats where hitboxes are. So if you wanna hit a gunboat with 700 meters range weapon you have to be in 600 - 650 range from it.
in a same situation versus a cruiser you have to be in 550 - 600 range to actually hit it. So the person that would opt for a 450 range, 600/300 damage, version of the scattergun, would severely limit himself deshielding wise, against anything bigger than a bomber.And even in a 2 bomber scenario, the EMP/SNAC using bomber will deshield a scattergun/SNAC using bomber faster.
3rd. I didnt only say " Use this as a base for new scattergun rebalance ", i just gave numbers that i thought might work to a certain degree, which was the plan in the first place.
I would also appreciate that skilled people and long term players gave their stats and numbers with which they think the scattergun would find middle ground between OP and totally useless.
We have a wide variety of scattergun change available, lets do something. Most of you here talk about how they were OP and how now they are crap. WE ALL know and agree on this. But that is also not in question, since we all ( i feel like im repeating myself XD) know this. What we dont know is how to rebalance them, hence this much needed thread, and change.
