"Blood Dragon Gunboat" it actually is the BD HF, it's a glitch with the list.
When they fly the proper GB it says: "Dragon GB"
But as most people know I have exactly the same thoughts. 95% of the time GCs fly Dragon bombers. 5% Blood Dragon fighters.
I am talking about my ingame experiences, not the playerlist. In fact, I don't even have the link to the playerlist....
' Wrote:Actually, Lane Hackers are using Borderworld ships by Vanilla.
So, Dagger, Scimitar, Sabre, Falcata - all perfectly well in RP for them.
It's not 'allies' ship, since BW ships are not Outcast ships.
It is a ship line used by Hackers, Hessians, LWB, Bundies and some others.
Small correction, the LWB uses Civilian Ships, and that will never be subject to change if I have something to say about the matter.
' Wrote:My point being, Kusari is becoming polarized if you continue this way.
Imagine now FA starting to fly lawful Catamarans and Chimaeras around.
Hogosha too.
I know it was just a hypothetical, but I think I can speak for Zelot as well in saying that this will never happen on the AFA part of the spectrum, even if some of us (Yours truly included) can currently justify it in RP, and others might be able to later.
' Wrote:You're so right it hurts. Because I want one. UGH. Okay, some more ranting, FEEL MY PAIN:
The Eagle is a good ship. I've flown one, it is by no means weak. BUT, It's generic, and i hate that.
I hope you can see the point I'm trying to make here, if I wanted to fly an Eagle i'd be a Zoner or a freelancer or whatever. In the GC I wanted a different experience. The GC are different to the BD no matter what, they fight for different reasons.
I know if I was still in LSF and read this I'd be thinking: "FLY EAGLES!!!" Nothing to do with the LSF, but that'd be my 'outsider' view.
By the by, Evie Knight is my char, I'm flying a Griffin at the moment... it's a long story.
EDIT: Chopper, that story of yours just looks like a pisstake, and still gives me no real reason to change my views. And about the BD HF's, well, not many people in GC actually fly them, so Kuraine kept his word.
Jamez, instead of thinking of the Eagle as something only the Zoners on Freeport 9 produce, try thinking of it in terms of this metaphor (Kurraine is going to laugh so hard if he remembers this):
Everyone makes cheese, right? The US, Canada, Columbia, Argentina, Switzerland, Austria, France, Russia, Kenya, Australia, etc. all make cheese. How many of those cheeses are sold commercially around the world, though? Only the cheeses that taste the best and have the highest production capacity.
Now, we can apply the same theory to commodities and ships. Everyone makes simple commodities such as Basic Alloys and Food Rations, but only the highest qualities and largest producers can sell them commercially, like Dortmund Station and Planet Cambridge. It works the same way with commercial ships. Because the Eagle is the ship that most civilians fly, it is safe to assume that Kusari, Liberty, Bretonia, and Rheinland produce them in limited quantities for their corporations and for local sale. This means that the Eagle is a national ship for all nations, not just the Zoners, who produce them in high quantities.
' Wrote:Actually, the only weapons the GC use (or should use, but i'm pretty sure i've sorted that out now) are disinfectors and suncannons. I don't think many of them (if any) use daitos.We do use blood dragon ships almost exclusively at present, although this will change hopefully if/when Jinx is able to finish off the GC bomber/VHF/LF XD. I will not force every member to ditch their red cat, though I will encourage them to do so. But I myself will be buying a GC bomber, and any new recruits who get a bomber will have to get a GC bomber from then on.
We only have two gunboats and nothing bigger than a gunboat. Yes, we are more bomber heavy than fighters, although most people do have a fighter as well. We do have quite a few people who fly their fighters, they're just not around all the time.
One of the biggest problems is that currently a bomber solves most situations that we come across, and it goes the same for many other pirates and lawfuls too. But I hear that they're all getting a certain amount of nerfing for 4.85 *shrugs* they certainly need it, to some extent at least.
Finally, while the Eagle may be a nice ship, flying it just does not fit in with the Kusari aesthetics and scenery, and just looks totally out of place. At least the Blood Dragon vessels fit, and i'm more about the RP and aesthetics than PvP anyway (since I largely suck in anything smaller/bigger than a destroyer).
I have to say, Kurraine, that, aside from asking you to remember Xoria's cheese metaphor that I like using so much, I'd like to say that you don't seem very convincing with anything that you're saying to justify the use of the RC in RP. It has been argued on several occasions that the BD don't give out their ships, even to the GC. I do believe that there is also vanilla lore that states that fact exactly.
It's not the fact that you're using the RC and HF, it's the fact that you are using them exclusively and not restricting them at all. It's not a big deal to use the RC and HF, but they have to be restricted because of the RP posed by them of being hand made for their pilots. That view has to be respected, even if the Roc is bugged and the GC do not have a shipline. I don't think the GC necessarily need a shipline, even, just like the LWB, Unioners, Xenos, FA, Gaians, Bunschuh, Lane Hackers, Mollies, and Rogues don't need their own, personal shipline. I don't really think they have the resources, manpower, or motives to make their own shiplines. That isn't the point, though. Chopper, Mjolnir, Jynx, and I all believe that you should at least put some restrictions on the Red Cat and Blood Dragon HF because of how they fly, and stick to the Civilian Line otherwise, as was vanilla RP.
EDIT: I forgot the Xenos in that part...
[8:32:45 PM] Dusty Lens: Oh no, let me get that. Hello? Oh it's my grandma. She says to be roleplay.
[12:49:19 AM] Elgatodiablo: You know its nice that you have all that proof and all, Bacon... but I just don't believe you.