' Wrote:Well first off, McNeo, your ships didn't only shoot HF. In the first fight sso| appeared in, you guys fought both HF and AW. That would be why we declared you hostile. And that is why we don't allow sso| near. Don't like it, than you shouldn't have accepted the deal, don't blame us for it.
We were paid to fight the HF only if i remember correctly. You simply interfered in our business.
If i am wrong about this i apologise (not as my BHG guy, but as myself).
' Wrote:Now, they might have allied The Order to attack Nomads, but why would they really need an alliance to do that. And if Liberty Navy suddenly started invading Omicron Minor, the Zoners would be helping The Order, due to being allied.
I did not say we were purely Zoners. I did however, say we were very closely affiliated with them.
Secondly, we do not restrict any one type of faction (ex; Corsairs, BHG, Liberty Navy, etc) from Theta. Never have, and it will only happen if the NPCs become hostile with them.
The liberty navy are already frequently sighted in Omicron Minor. I was asked for contraband from one of their NPC pilots today in Minor. They also have alaska more or less blockaded due to the presence of a high level prison station there. I dont see zoners attacking liberty...or even attempting to go near their space. So you see, the Zoners have no active role in killing anyone but the Nomads in their alliance.
On the next bit:
You say you are not purely Zoners, but closely affiliated. Why so many wars? even if you werent the ones who started it, a typical Zoner leader would try to resolve the situation peacefully rather than wasting Zoner lives on a fruitless war and defeating the reason why the Zoners exist in the first place...to be Neutral.
Also, You say you do not restrict any faction. I understand that completely and i understand your reasoning later on about PC factions only. However, due to the diplomacy of the AW (allying to lane hackers for example), you insisted on protecting a perfectly viable target for a bounty hunter. NPC bounty hunters hunt lane hackers. You see them in Manchester and magellan. Due to this, shouldn't you kill all bounty hunter NPC's because they are hunting your lane hacker allies.
The reason the sso| and AW are hostile is because of two conditions that were fulfilled. The sso| were paid to kill HF, who were allied to AW. If you are closely affiliated to the zoners, isnt makeing an alliance such as this, and generally leaning towards the Outcast side of the fold (read: Corsair and Outcast war) out of the question?
' Wrote:We do however stop factions that are hostile to us, for very clear reasons. We will stop sso|, and FEAR because we are at war/hostile with each other. That does NOT mean that any player wearing a BHG tag will be attacked by us. Just the people in the sso| PC faction.
As I stated before, neutral unless allied or provoked. We do not hold all characters flying a faction tag responsible for actions of a player faction.
There seems to be a misconception here..
The first bit of that was already discussed earlier in this post. FEAR to my knowledge were directly contracted to hunt you, so thats fair. The sso| werent contracted to kill you directly, but due to the alliance between you and the Hellfire legion (which shouldnt have happened considering you view yourself as closely affiliated with the zoners).
I do not have anything to say on the second part of that quote as it is not relevant to the discussion here.
' Wrote:We do take only a defensive stance. All we do in Theta is defend the people attacked there, especially traders, and then we keep out people who are at war with us. Bs| owns Minor, but I doubt many people would complain if SA (Liberty) entered Minor and Bs| (Order) fought them out. Thats what we have done with Theta. Only those who are at war with us, or attacked people we defended in Theta.
Recently, Majkp was chased out of Omicron Alpha by AW. I dont call that defencive. Also, do you protect actuall zoner interests rather than your own as you defend Theta from people like the sso|. Zoners would be pretty happy to allow any bounty hunter, NPC or PC to operate in that area. As closely affiliated to the Zoners, the validity of your hostility towards the sso| is questionable because of the conditions under which it happened. Therefore, by shunning a bounty hunter PC faction, protecting your own interests in the process, you are serving your primary role (protecting your interests) under the increasingly thin viel of protecting Zoner interests.
I use the sso| as an example, as many other factions may feel the same way. I cannot comment on other factions much as i do not know the full facts about them. None of this is mean't to be flame. Just a debate on the many issues discussed in this thread.
