' Wrote:Out of these 3 ships Guardian is fastest in both turn intitiation and dodging.
Avenger rather fast in turn initiation, but has slower max turning speed and is not so good in dodging. Nephthys doesn't start to turn so fast, but dodges good.
Well that is the main Problem actually.
' Wrote:I'd actually go so far as to say that I found the Nephthys to have the best response of the three, at least it felt quite nippy when flying it*.
Indeed that, that was the OP 4.85 Sabre too and better then eagle. Now Eagle /Wraith/ are the best VHFs around.
In practice the better dodging and acceleration of the ship make up for the slower turning. 4.85 Sabre turned a way to slow then Eagle for example but it was superior.
For example Molly Greyhound have cool turning but it fails in everything else so it is suitable only for some very good pilots that could use the turning as advantage.
Good acceleration and dodging/strafing abilities are useful for everyone- it doesn't matter if the pilot is Ace or newiebie- they are 100% useful for both kind of pilots.
If you combine 15k core with 7 guns and good dodging then you got nice OP ship, same with the SCRA VHF- it is HF sized and with LF agility but have the same offensive abilities as the Guardian- but with better faction guns.
There was case in Theta 2 weeks ago where 10 Titans were shooting 1 SCRA VHF
among them were 3-4 of the Disco good pilots, SCRA pilot was also good pilot, titans were not able to take down his shield-LF with VHF shield- mega OP ship- go figure....
Avenger is just bad. Greyhound is just bad. Arbeiter is just bad. v3 Sabre is just bad. Guardian is mediocre.
What Petko and McNeo said is true.
Order playerbase in this topic- well you could not be more hypocrite then that I bet.
If Jeremy and etc cannot fly ships does not means that all cannot k? It does not mean that some factions with bad in PvP pilots in general should receive OP ships to compensate.
However your "won" the forum spam/RP mehness point. You are right that you need OP ships to fight nomads, same as SCRA needs OP ships to fight the rest of Sirius because they got more numbers...:lol:
Go hide somewhere k?
(10-09-2013, 10:51 AM)Knjaz Wrote: Official faction players that are often accused of elitism, never deploy them and have those weird, immersion killing "fair fight/dueling" suicidal hobbies. (yes, i've seen enough of those lolduels, where house military with overwhelming force on the field willingly loses a pilot in a duel. ffs.)