Discovery 4.86 - Update 4 Released

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Have you ever flown/tried/saw Scylla and RPC/Vidar? Do you even have Idea what you are talking about?
Scylla(something I dont even know what- destroyer or cruiser or something, call it dread if you want we does not care about the name as long as it is balanced and effective for usage)
Scylla could be Destroyer in name but it got 12 guns, heavy cruiser handling, heavy cruiser core, medium cruiser hull/Bots(somewhat) , 4 heavy slots, crap arcs( not even single heavy at 360°- 3 front only 1 back only), crap small slot arcs.I doubt that there is any other so bad cruiser that needs to mount 2 LMs in order to have full LM range.

It is as big as RPC, It as big as RM cruiser and a lot bigger then Breton cruiser-Size

RPC/Hel (light Destroyer)
RPC got 9 guns( 8 360° one 350°) , 2 heavy slots(360°)- brutal good arcs- you does not need 12 guns if you have 9 that cover all possible positions- , light cruiser core, light cruiser handling. You said that destroyers should have crap back arks- guess what- the hessian one have 2 heavy slots back(1 and back only for Scylla) and all the rest guns shoot back.....

Vidar- heavy cruiser
This is real heavy cruiser- it got 12 front guns- 4 heavy and 8 normal slots- brutal power.
It got even all 4 heavy slots shooting back- I doubt that there is any other cruiser like that.
It got the best Missile turret in game doing double missile dmg, and yes it got tons of bots and bats and huge hull, it does have only few backfire normal turrets.
Scylla is utter broken ship- it got destroyer size, destroyer arcs and heavy cruiser everything else- it needs a fix anyway- we asked about it, got ignored of course like now again, we does not care if it would be like Vidar or like RPC- I prefer it like RPC because it is more fitting both for Mollys and Rogues, but this :
Scylla got 1 equipment slot, RPC got 2 equipment slots and carrier bay- this is really bad joke with the Scylla users.We do accept that the Dev team want nerfed Molly/Rogue cruiser-sadly our factions have no representative in the Dev team- in order to have good stuff, but nerfing our Base RP options too? 2 Slots are needed in order to use the jump drive option properly. You are just joking with us right? Or you think that we are all idiots?
:rtfm:

You're all idiots.

It'll be garnered at, danke for the heads up.

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[AeternusDoleo]

Ah. Govedo runs out of arguements and cries bias. Attacking the person instead of arguing the point. A sign you have lost control of the discussion, or are unwilling or unable to make your own point. Considering I personally despise crybabies, find another dev to listen to it Govvie. I'm done with you.

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From a time when all seems lost, from a dead man to a world, without restraint, unafraid and free.

Mostly retired Discovery member. May still visit from time to time.

[Blackwood]

To my knowledge there's very little that prevents you from grabbing a Zoner cruiser.

You care to clarify that statement? I'm pretty sure "grabbing a Zoner cruiser" results in the Reaver Mercenaries knocking down your door and demanding the ship be returned to the nearest Zoner base. Or has Zoner policy changed when I was away?

[AeternusDoleo]

Zoner policy. Contradiction in terms. That aside, only Omicroners ever pursued such issues agressively, and they have disbanded. Tech has been thrown open (although there's nothign to prevent factions from putting a bounty on people misusing their tech).

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Wide awake in a world that sleeps, enduring thoughts, enduring scenes. The knowledge of what is yet to come.
From a time when all seems lost, from a dead man to a world, without restraint, unafraid and free.

Mostly retired Discovery member. May still visit from time to time.

[Govedo13]

Ah. Govedo runs out of arguements and cries bias.dev to listen to it Govvie. I'm done with you.

Actually not.
I am not running out of arguments, simply because my arguments are facts:
-Scylla
-Hel
Actually you are running out of arguments, crybaby you said? I asked nicely why Scylla got one slot- you said because it is small destroyer oook- then I showed you even smaller destroyer with 3 slots... Bias you said? Go look at the pics again- you may be would be able to see who is biased, I bet that for the rest is more then clear.
When the facts are speaking gods remain silent- a wise man said once upon a time..
Now I am out of here you showed that you have no idea what are you talking about very clearly and ignored clear facts too. We would have no problem to take other faction cruiser as official faction in order to use the new features really- even it is weird and strange since we have our own useless one, you can continue to joke around with peoples factions and tech- you do good at that. I mean we are human and make mistakes,however when you screw up it is better to check the facts first and talk later-like I did- I checked several different cruisers/battlecruisers and battleships before I posted first time about it, take this as note for the future. There would be no need of harsh words showing that you are wrong if you checked the facts from my first post about it in the first place.

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Official faction players that are often accused of elitism, never deploy them and have those weird, immersion killing "fair fight/dueling" suicidal hobbies. (yes, i've seen enough of those lolduels, where house military with overwhelming force on the field willingly loses a pilot in a duel. ffs.)

[koske]

Things can be accepted as they are or cannot be accepted but anyway people need to deal with situation as it is.

Govedo you got your answer from DEV member and dunno what are you trying to accomplish? They can't work for every each of us in person.

Now my question. I'm looking over things required for stations again. I've found a small..issue. The food required for the crew. Why wouldn't be able to use synth paste? It's not listed as a viable food source.

[AeternusDoleo]

Then that's just a missing entry in the tutorial. It is in fact configured to be a viable food source, so synthpaste would work fine.

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Wide awake in a world that sleeps, enduring thoughts, enduring scenes. The knowledge of what is yet to come.
From a time when all seems lost, from a dead man to a world, without restraint, unafraid and free.

Mostly retired Discovery member. May still visit from time to time.

[Jansen]

Awesome work guys, thats quite a long change list :cool:

Actually not.
I am not running out of arguments, simply because my arguments are facts:
-Scylla
-Hel
Actually you are running out of arguments, crybaby you said? I asked nicely why Scylla got one slot- you said because it is small destroyer oook- then I showed you even smaller destroyer with 3 slots... Bias you said? Go look at the pics again- you may be would be able to see who is biased, I bet that for the rest is more then clear.
When the facts are speaking gods remain silent- a wise man said once upon a time..
Now I am out of here you showed that you have no idea what are you talking about very clearly and ignored clear facts too. We would have no problem to take other faction cruiser as official faction in order to use the new features really- even it is weird and strange since we have our own useless one, you can continue to joke around with peoples factions and tech- you do good at that. I mean we are human and make mistakes,however when you screw up it is better to check the facts first and talk later-like I did- I checked several different cruisers/battlecruisers and battleships before I posted first time about it, take this as note for the future. There would be no need of harsh words showing that you are wrong if you checked the facts from my first post about it in the first place.

Looks like thats a dev related thing so, wouldnt that be better of here?

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[JayDee Kasane]

Interesting to me one thing: why Nomad Assasing have GB shield? its freaking not fair and cheating. and It seems Nomad BS have more armor then it listed. I used 20-25 LMs to kill it

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[soryk]

I started to play freelancer after a long break. Thanks to 4.86 update.
Well ... the are so many new and cool staff here. Great work.

But I have a problem. My old and favorite Border World Transporter didn't had so many troubles in 4.85. Now I stuck in almost every trade line, even if I aim to the middle of TL :/ it jumps to corner and stuck for good. Using inside view helps a bit, but please, I didn't had so many troubles even with 5K train I had in past.

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