It's not really "Gaijin Hate", that's why I made the distinction that the Katsuragi only seek to expel those foreign groups or people who they see as having "influence or control" over Kusari people or it's government, believing that foreigners themselves are generally alright, but that dealings with foreign groups should only be done when they "Benefit the Kusari people".
Whether it's actually foreign or Kusari corporations creating poor situations, The Katsuragi place the blame on foreign entities moreso than local ones, especially when it comes to dealings with Gallia, who the Katsuragi believe have turned Kusari into a puppet state.
That isn't to say "Local Corporations" don't get targeted for creating "poor situations" as well, it's just that the reactions aren't as 'severe'.
We don't aim to be some weird sort of Kusari Xenos or something.
Fran and I had a good laugh about this in the leaders' chat but it was based on serious points: I still think people need to stop making Dragon factions. Seriously, there might be more Shoguns now than in the Imperial KNF...
(10-22-2013, 11:18 AM)LolRawr!? Wrote: i.e., they'll do their own thing, we'll do our own thing
A nice idea, but to me these "thing"s are almost identical. I'm not accusing you of trying to copy anyone, simply that some other groups need some attention in Kusari or otherwise. For Sarah personally, I'd just be careful with stretching yourself across too many leaderships (and now Moderator again) since I almost did the same thing. You make a great member too, I know from CR|!
There is indeed enough room for you all in an official faction rules perspective, too bad it comes with way too much room in Kusari. Some focus on the lawfuls would be of much more benefit than lots of lonely honour warriors; even KNF has been struggling lately (they've usually held on pretty well with all that cybering for tracker time 8|).
But, onto the actual faction because I like doing this:
I like the higher-than-usual focus on politics (intentions beyond "get rid of this government"), should work well with similar groups for cooperation like the Mollys and Bundschuh (although WK| are doing some work with them already).
I have the same problem with your restrictive recruit rank - bombers are really that much of a problem these days? - as Hojo's near-identical one, but the rest of your ZoI is a bit more open which is good to see.
In that same Hojo vein, the 'below-neutral' diplomacy seems a little off from what I noticed.
Corsairs and to a lesser extent the BHG are supposed to be pretty big enemies of the Dragons, I'd have thought at least hostile here.
Kusari lawfuls are only Hostile while the Exiles are at war - in particular, they did the exact opposite of abandon Kusari to Gallia when they kept fighting them no matter what, at least to me so goal 4 seems weird (could be a not-so-hostile angle there).
Liberty Corporations in particular being so red, wouldn't rate them too much more than the other houses - Rheinland would have far more sway over the Republic these days (while also being heavily reliant on Kusari's money). Being at war with corporations without being at war with the lawfuls is kind of silly anyway.
You also listed Hogosha as both Hostile and At War, either could make sense though.
While you're right about the BHG and their needing to be hostile (I actually had a small tussle with some BHG| earlier 8|), I thought I'd put them in the Hostile category, but...I did write most of this up at about 5AM this morning so...it's not perfect yet XD
As for the rest of the diplomacy stuff, nothing is set in stone and right now the list is just sort of a base, as I pointed out, things will change as we get a better feel for what's what, and begin to form relations with different groups.
For the recruit rank, I don't know...call it a habit from the [LN], though unlike the [LN], I won't be requiring my Ashigaru here to gain eight hours of flight time, it should take no more than two or three flights for them to be promoted.
Some things need to be sorted out, and I'll get to those, but I don't really see the issue with multiple Dragon factions, as long as we're all working together.
It makes no less sense than multiple Liberty Navy facitons.
No worries on some of the stuff, it's the first write-up and from what I know of you, a lot of work tends to be done in the off-hours!
Multiple factions work perfectly well with (primarily) the LN ID because oh god there's so many indies if they were all [LN] it'd be crazy. "We're not in Kansas any more", this is Kusari where, at least if you are serious (later, as you said) about becoming official then a large number of small groups doesn't or perhaps even cannot work in that capacity.
You've got some good experience from being [LN] leader, but don't take the super-activity of the house for granted when elsewhere. And this is coming from mainly a mega-miner and unique-badass-military faction player/leader... we sure can't do the same with the BPA.
Ran into you lot briefly earlier today in the Tau's. Didn't see much from you but then I was busy fighting IMG and KNF. Looks pretty good, I need an excuse to make Kusari characters.
(10-22-2013, 11:19 PM)SummerMcLovin Wrote: No worries on some of the stuff, it's the first write-up and from what I know of you, a lot of work tends to be done in the off-hours!
Multiple factions work perfectly well with (primarily) the LN ID because oh god there's so many indies if they were all [LN] it'd be crazy. "We're not in Kansas any more", this is Kusari where, at least if you are serious (later, as you said) about becoming official then a large number of small groups doesn't or perhaps even cannot work in that capacity.
You've got some good experience from being [LN] leader, but don't take the super-activity of the house for granted when elsewhere. And this is coming from mainly a mega-miner and unique-badass-military faction player/leader... we sure can't do the same with the BPA.
Well, I do get what you're saying about the way things are in Kusari, I don't intend to be the "Most active" group of Dragons out here, and I've already started talking with the leader of WK|, which I think I mentioned but...my intent is to do things with them, that will see both of our groups cooperating and flying together, so as to boost the activity and visibility of both groups.
One other thing I'll say is that while there will obviously be similarities between this group and others, it is not an outright clone, and similarities aren't always bad, either.
BUT, One of the major differences between say, Watanabe Kazoku, and Katsuragi Bakufu, is that WK are oriented toward covert actions and subterfuge whereas my group is dedicated more toward Overt Military-style combat operations. At least, those are two major differences according to "faction info", and I believe that they -can- be played out in-game, and the nature of the two groups can be noticeably different, if it all plays out right, and people stick to what they've established as their "modus operendi".
In any case, I've mostly made this group for fun, as I said earlier, and not with the outright goal of seeking officialdom, this is just something I've wanted to try for a while, if we get noticed and whatnot, hey that's cool, if we get involved in cool roleplay situations, that's even cooler, and if it leads us to officialdom, sweet.
But again, I'm just in this for fun *shrug*
OH, and, Shogun 2 is great, I typically play FOTS, as Pro-Imperial clans. Point? xD
(10-23-2013, 03:43 AM)LolRawr!? Wrote: both of our groups cooperating and flying together, so as to boost the activity and visibility of both groups.
My point was that this could easily be done as one group, perhaps with the main RP of the larger ships and overt operations carried out by you while the subtleties are carried out by Mare. Perhaps if things work out well that could be something to try in the future.
(10-23-2013, 03:43 AM)LolRawr!? Wrote: OH, and, Shogun 2 is great, I typically play FOTS, as Pro-Imperial clans. Point? xD
Just I heard it mentioned that this was the reason you were suddenly going all Shogun on us
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