Update: RM VHF/Bomber: Geist/Bergelmir (WIP)

[Felsvar]

Hi,

All replies have been noted especially in the cockpit part of the model. I tweaked the wings and added 2 launch tubes. Added the Rheinland Insignia on its hull. Enjoy the eye candy. As always, feedback is what really counts.

~Fels.

[Thunderer]

If that is a bomber, it is far too small -- a problem that the current Bergelmir already has, which is, as far as I know, the main reason why it needs a remodel. The Wraith is already one of the smallest VHFs around, and if your bomber is comparable by size to it, let alone smaller, then you have a problem.

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[Felsvar]

If that is a bomber, it is far too small -- a problem that the current Bergelmir already has, which is, as far as I know, the main reason why it needs a remodel. The Wraith is already one of the smallest VHFs around, and if your bomber is comparable by size to it, let alone smaller, then you have a problem.

Hi,

I can resolve that issue by scaling it up a bit. As the matter of fact, instead of comparing it to the VHF's, going to compare it with its class.

[Thunderer]

That seems fine.

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[Felsvar]

@Thunderer

For your sake:

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[Haste]

I think it's already a lot bigger than the Bergelmir, judging from that picture. The Bergelmir's model would be better suited to a Heavy Fighter.

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[Thunderer]

Is that Hessian thing a Thor? Why is a heavy bomber the same size as a medium, Blodo Haste?

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[Pepe]

This is not about this very pretty model, but in general, about all new bombers.

Only reason any shipconstructor would put SNAC on side is because you can shoot two in the same time. Np, in case that's the plan. But, it isn't.

Although, I'd agree if light bombers would use 2x MR instead of SNAC. Left one and right one, simultaneously. Even then slots could be in the middle, over and under the cockpit.

We already noticed huge improvement in MR position constructing, so pls constructors... I beg you... put a main gun in the middle (if there is just one ship can have) and make a ship around it.

Wings too. Tanks, ships, rocks and spaceships need wings all the same.

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[Mercarryn]

I think it's already a lot bigger than the Bergelmir, judging from that picture. The Bergelmir's model would be better suited to a HeavyLight Fighter.

I fixed it for you. Right now, Rheinland lawfuls have the current Phantom as heavy fighter, and that model fits the heavy fighter line.
Instead a lawful light fighter would be necessary and the current Bergelmir model could be used for that. With appropriate scaling ofc.

For the new Bergelmir model:

Don`t know, but Pepe is right, the main gun should be positioned at the center, as only one can be fired at one time..
To my mind, the wings of your model could be placed a bit more ot the back. It looks a bit strange on it because the rear is bigger.

[Felsvar]

Hi;

I agree with having 2 missile/torp tubes is kinda useless and only 1 S.N.A.C. can be fitted per bomber. I improvised the model with a single forward cannon (S.N.A.C. Tube) and also took note of the wings; they are now pushed back.

In addition, I added an 'engine' for the Afterburner to be placed on and gun mounts. The cockpit has seemed too awkward for me so I also reworked on that as well. The interior is still unfinished. As always, feedback is always welcome!


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~Fels