@ Dusty Lens: My point is that the bounty system is starting to loose focus. The bounty board is so jam packed with generic bounties and stuffed with a bounty for nearly every character created on the server. Its to the point that the bounty board doesn't mean anything. Its completely useless because a hunter or merc doesn't really have to check it to see if the guy or gal they want to shoot down is bountied. The hunter or merc can just take the kill and THEN leisurely search the bounty board for a bounty that fits the target he or she just took out. That's not what the bounty board was intended for. If it were intended to be this way ... why have it? You might as well get rid of the bounty board and say have at it mercs and hunters ... kill whatever's red on your radar. I've had several encounters where someone saw my Pirate ID, searched for me in the bounty board with no luck and then came back to me and said, "well i couldn't find you in the bounty board, so I added you to the list." WAIT ... WHAT? WHY? Its becoming an excuse to get a kill message and loosing its role play value. If EVERYONE is on the bounty list ... there's no longer a need for the list because everyone is killable.
' Wrote:I've had several encounters where someone saw my Pirate ID, searched for me in the bounty board with no luck and then came back to me and said, "well i couldn't find you in the bounty board, so I added you to the list."
A practice, real or fictional, which I challenged with my requested rule change. One which hasn't gone through for reasons beyond me ken.
That being said I would challenge you to state in a simple point by point format what you feel would be the ideal.
' Wrote:Wat as in you don't get me or, wat as in you have an idea?
I still say Blanket Bounties should be removed. Maybe they buffed them once now giving them a minimal Bounty of a Million, but they are still ****e as before. Look, a Person places a Bounty onto a whole Faction, Liberty Rogues for Example. Now, inRP it might work out, but it does not in this Community and PvP.
That allows to shoot everyone on everyone and as already known the Most of them don't even go to cash in that Money. That Mercnet is actually good and even capable of taking Bounties of single Persons. Some People just have to keep it updated. I don't see any Problem, Hell, even the Forum Search Funtion works.
"Who is it doing this synthetic type of alpha beta psychedelic funkin'?"
As to the issue of newer or less rich bounty-wanters and blanket bounties, what if the minimum for specific bounties was removed while the minimum for blanket bounties was raised?
Also, the no-claim situation should definitely be adjusted, as Dusty had suggested.
I still say Blanket Bounties should be removed. Maybe they buffed them once now giving them a minimal Bounty of a Million, but they are still ****e as before. Look, a Person places a Bounty onto a whole Faction, Liberty Rogues for Example. Now, inRP it might work out, but it does not in this Community and PvP.
That allows to shoot everyone on everyone and as already known the Most of them don't even go to cash in that Money. That Mercnet is actually good and even capable of taking Bounties of single Persons. Some People just have to keep it updated. I don't see any Problem, Hell, even the Forum Search Funtion works.
I was waiting for you to post first so I could just copy and paste stuff from pervious threads that touched on this same topic. It's been re-hashed so often by the same people it makes me want to puke blood.
Killing every Liberty Rogue doesn't make sense? For heavens' sake, man. You're bad guys. You're meant to be tough.
Hire an escort.
My interest in this is the fact that despite all the rules, some people will never be satisfied.
Bounty History Lesson
Bounties became part of the rules as a result of
a) the AP shipline's strengths (the old gunship and cheap battlecruiser)
b) the unrestricted ID that allowed the battlecruiser to roam at will, yea, even unto the mining fields of Colorado
c) the Charles Bronson mentality of some players
d) mercenaries who literally made up bounties on people to get revenge in Red Cat bombers (anyone remember those?)
e) demands for transparency on the part of people affected by d) above
So the response was rules. And more blanket bounties. So people could get on with playing without getting threatened with sanctions, reports and tiresome lawyering. I needs to get mah PvP on.
BUT those of who you who are au fait with the history of this whole thing will recall that blanket bounties pre-date that rule - the old OPG job was worth 5 million and lasted for ages (thanks unselie). And no whining from the OPG. Because they were
a) good players
b) good PvPers
c) well organised
d) famous for never whinging on the forums. I kudos'd them in their official application for that characteristic. They dealt with a hostile gaming environment by killing their enemies. It helped that they played in the less densely populated systems. Those dense systems are dense in more ways than population.
e) proper pirates. In fact, for a time, the oinly cargo pirates I recall encountering in a three month period.
The first blanket bounty that covered several entire factions was placed by Sleipnir in the BPA. Those of you who knew Sleip will recall he was a PvP whore of the highest order and the BPA were a large PVP whoring faction who couldn't roleplay their way out of a paper bag. Hence the unarmed ships flown.
It is a unsatisfactory solution but the only existing one to counter the delusions of players who want a game as a bad guy without consequences. I mean pirates can shoot everything and that doesn't require any visit to the forums. Why shouldn't bounty hunters? Freelancers and mercenaries ought to have a player employer.
You still expect to pirate people and not face the consequences? You still expect people to spend more time on the forums than in-game? You now want to force people to post images and upload stuff to photobucket to play and make it a rule violation if they don't?
Bloody hell.
Dusty, here's some solutions:
Remove the bounty collection ability from freelancer id'd players.
Make the merc ID admin issue only.
Limit the merc id to official merc factions or SRP requests.
Insert the line "May hunt pirates and criminals across Sirius" on the BHG ID, and limit them to bombers or smaller.
Ignore the same complaints from the same players.
Start a Discovery Hands-Holding 24/7 Server
Continue to work with the current system however flawed it is.
As you may now realise, running a bounty board is a chore for all concerned. Including the targets too, apparently.
For God's Sake read what I post. When did I say that making a Blanket Bounty makes no Sense? I said that it does in Roleplay, but the Community is way too stupid to handle those. Including your Faction. Including the Bounty Hunter Independents and including the Mercenaries. Seriously I had to take off my Glasses and bash my Head onto the Table.
I don't care what happened in the Past. Fact is that it still doesn't work properly. If you are an Ignorant then pass your Faction Leader Seat to someone else.
Athenians my Arse.
"Who is it doing this synthetic type of alpha beta psychedelic funkin'?"
' Wrote:Seriously I had to take off my Glasses and bash my Head onto the Table.
Try again. Harder this time.
What the hell does being an Ignorant entail? You have your opinion, I have mine. I might be ignorant of the experience yous and Baltar have in game but that is hardly my fault.
What else in role-play can the Community not be trusted to handle? Their reputation status based on their actions in the past? Their status as known criminals? Because that's what it looks like from over here.
And what has this got do with being a faction leader? I'm a bloody player as well and the game is riddled with enough rules as it is without adding them for the sake of the terminally unhappy.
What's the alternative to the current system? And why doesn't it work properly?
Read my proposals.
And I'll make it clear for you.
Any solution that would remove any current difficulties would be implemented so long as it was practical and practicable.
Suggest a solution to the current problems and if it makes sense I'll give it my full support as a player, administrator and faction leader.
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