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Offline BaconSoda
09-27-2010, 03:00 PM, (This post was last modified: 09-27-2010, 03:02 PM by BaconSoda.)
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' Wrote:many of them have ugly models
or they are imports

You are entitled to your opinion in saying that they are ugly, but that does not discount the fact that replacements for the Eagle are there. I personally find most of those quite pleasing to the eyes, especially the Tiger Shark, Kingfisher, Raven's Talon, and Wasupu.

Arguing that we need more because others do not tickle your fancy is like opening the cupboard and seeing 7 boxes of Cheerios then declaring that your house is void of cereal and therefore your mother must go shopping for cereal.

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Offline Swallow
09-27-2010, 03:13 PM,
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all i want is improving of models (or textures, waspu`s one isnt perfect too) AND making unique eagles for each faction (be blessed Ashes)
kingfisher, tig shark and raven are good.
but! dactile, mafic, basalt....they need to be renovated

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Offline BaconSoda
09-27-2010, 04:24 PM,
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' Wrote:all i want is improving of models (or textures, waspu`s one isnt perfect too) AND making unique eagles for each faction (be blessed Ashes)
kingfisher, tig shark and raven are good.
but! dactile, mafic, basalt....they need to be renovated

The powers that be are aware of inadequacies of the Homeword imports. Worry you not.

The problem with the unique Eagles is that they're pretty much just kitbashes which are much worse on the eyes than any of the original models you stated were ugly. Anyone can put a different tail and texture on an Eagle, but something like the Kingfisher, Wasupu, or Tiger Shark, which are original inspired works, are made from the original thoughts of some modeler and are rather works of art. I would really rather have what we have now than a new Eagle with a different tail and give modelers the time and patience to make original models for civilian factions like the Kingfisher and Havok II.

But, you are entitled to your opinion in saying they are ugly, just keep in mind that there are boxes of Cheerios waiting in the cupboard and if you choose not to munch on them, no one else will be at fault for your grumbling stomach.

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Offline ... kur nubėgo?
09-27-2010, 04:35 PM,
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Eagle is ok. It's quite weak ship actually... just learn to counter it's ability to turn faster.

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Offline Mickk
09-27-2010, 04:39 PM,
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No.

The Eagle is an ORIGINAL part of of Freelancer, therefore it should stay.

There are a *lot* of other ship models that are 'imports' to Freelancer that need to be replaced, as has already been pointed out.

AFTER this has been done, then changing original models should be considered.... that is if it is decided that it should be necessary.

As far as a 'unique' Eagle for each faction, think a re-skin/texture in Faction colors, that would serve just as well if you think about it.

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Offline Swallow
09-27-2010, 09:01 PM,
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' Wrote:...
But, you are entitled to your opinion in saying they are ugly, just keep in mind that there are boxes of Cheerios waiting in the cupboard and if you choose not to munch on them, no one else will be at fault for your grumbling stomach.

please, speak simply, im not so good in english.
maybe you didnt got me, the second post is giving answer about unique eagles, thats all i wanted to know.
and i said that ugly ships are dactile, mafic, basalt.
but i also said that ships like waspu, tiger shark, virage and others may be retextured because they are not in fl style and their textures are not perfect! (kingfisher is a good ship, i didnt said anything bad abt it).
i think that FIRSTLY you v got to FIX "uglys" and THEN add new ships.
i would be very happy to see renewed mafic or retextured waspu.
and i think that it is not hard to do

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https://github.com/roalyr/GDTLancer
https://roal-yr.itch.io/gdtlancer
https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PL5HQB...cdH45LZgjj
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Offline lynnntropy
09-28-2010, 02:54 PM,
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Again, you're entitled to your own opinion when you say they're ugly. But that doesn't mean there aren't dozens of ships you can use, you only choose not to because you don't like them. But that's your thing.

My point is, they're not gonna change the entire mod when it's already in it, the fact that you don't like them is your own thing.
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Offline BaconSoda
09-29-2010, 03:00 PM,
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' Wrote:please, speak simply, I'm not so good in English.
maybe you didn't got me, the second post is giving answer about unique eagles, that's all i wanted to know.
and i said that ugly ships are dactile, mafic, basalt.
but i also said that ships like waspu, tiger shark, virage and others may be retextured because they are not in fl style and their textures are not perfect! (kingfisher is a good ship, I didn't said anything bad about it).
i think that FIRSTLY you v got to FIX "uglys" and THEN add new ships.
i would be very happy to see renewed mafic or retextured waspu.
and i think that it is not hard to do

Sorry, I don't mean to come off as rude or condescending or anything. I just mean to say that there are alternatives, and if you choose not to use them, no one will feel any pity for your use of the Eagle. The same really goes for everyone else, too.

I think we're on the same page with the imported ships. It takes a long time to develop a new mod version, so please be patient. We're already aware of the shortcomings, it just takes a long time to fix. After that, then modelers can really focus on making new, inspired ships rather than ships out of "necessity" for Mercenaries and all that.

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Offline Swallow
09-29-2010, 04:17 PM,
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Ok, thanks for your answers, i think this question may be closed now

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I am on discord: Roal-Yr#5994, I don't log on forum more than a few times a year.

I am not making ships for FL anymore, I am making my own space game instead:
https://github.com/roalyr/GDTLancer
https://roal-yr.itch.io/gdtlancer
https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PL5HQB...cdH45LZgjj
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