Any French left over would have been a part of the Hispania. The Rheinland, Liberty, Bretonia, and Kusari would have been too full to take any extras, the Hispania and maybe some of the destroyed ones would have been the ones to carry mixed cultures. Plus the Corsairs being named such indicates that they are from a part-french background, but by now the inter-Corsair breeding would have produced a race that would be a Hispanic/French cross, while the Outcasts would be an Italian/Hispanic cross. That is why you see a lot more Outcast NPCs and base names with Greek naming influence than you do in the Corsair bases and NPCs.
The Zoners also have a very large Greek influence that you can see through some of their base names (look at the ones that aren't Freeports, such as Ames, Corinth, Sparta, Livadia, and I believe there are two others), so I would assume the Greeks kept themselves more separate from the Hispanics and Italians after the Hispania inhabitants found Crete and Malta. Zoner NPCs are a mix of Greek, English, and American names (Greek, Liberty, Bretonia). So this indicates that the Greeks joined up with what seems like Bretonians and Libertarians when the Zoners were formed. This seems quite likely as Liberty and Bretonia were much more democratic and free-speech type houses than Kusari (Empire government) and Rheinland (Chancellory).
@onca: Well you aren't using Le correctly. Le is The.. They wouldn't name a nebula; Le Petomane Gas Cloud. It would just be Petomane Gas Cloud. Just like Liberty doesn't name their debris field; The Pittsburg Debris Field, its just Pittsburg Debris Field. Le/The only comes in when addressing that cloud in a conversation. So you would say the Petomane Gas Cloud is blue. So you would say le Petomane Gas Cloud is blue. Le would not included in the name, just when addressing it in a sentence.
Either way, it could be a good idea to have some of the more distant and less-connected systems having diferent names. 1-2 currently empty systems around Bretonia being French named, or some of the planet/bases in the system being French named, but the system being Bretonian.
For Liberty, we already have 2-3 Canadian system named ones, we could put some Canadian-name bases in there, but it would still be inhabited by Liberty corps. There would be no new houses, just small extentions to show some of the less-populous countries, or those that lost the majority in the war with the Coalition.
Kusari already has a Chinese named one, Kyoto. So thats already done, and Kusari doesn't seem like a government that would allow systems to be owned and named by others than themselves, when they own it. They would want complete control over the system's name.
Rheinland could possibly have some Austrian, Swiss, Hungarian, or Dutch named systems/bases. Swiss and Austria already use a variant of German, so there really would be no different, so that might not be a good idea. Dutch is very similar, but contains some differences. Hungarian and Polish are close, but different enough to be the equivilant of Canadian systems to Liberty systems as they would be to Rheinland systems.
' Wrote:Hungarian and Polish are close, but different enough to be the equivilant of Canadian systems to Liberty systems as they would be to Rheinland systems.
Hungarian and Polish close to German? The countries are close, the languages certainly not. Slavic and Germanic languages have huge differences, starting with the alphabet.
Languages close to German are, as you already said, Dutch, Belgian and Luxembourgian (all three have strong influences from German and French), as well as the languages of the scandinavian countries: Danish, Norwegian and Swedish. Switzerland and Austria basically use German in a local dialect, this applies to the regions/federal states in Germany as well.
Back on topic: the Corsairs and Outcasts really are a mixed bunch of bandits. Another problem is the fact that there are many places with the same name in the Mediterranean area. Take Leon for example, there are like 10 places in Europe with that name...
If you look at the tactics of the FL Corsairs, you actually see they bear way more resemblance to the Ottoman Corsairs on the Barbary coast than French privateer people. I don't believe personally that there are any French descendants on the Hispania (as in, their culture hasn't survived).
The style of piracy by the Ottoman Corsairs is generally reflected in FL, along with the scale in which the piracy happened. England lost 460~ merchant vessels between 1609 and 1616. Which reflects in part why the Corsairs are trying to make enroads into Bretonia.
Coming from a vanilla server where I led a large Outcast Clan (The Corsairs Benitez family here on Disco is strongly based on the Outcast Alvarez family from Raw server).
We always considered the Outcasts to have roots from all across southern Europe. Our own family name Alvarez has history in Spain, Portugal, and Italy.
Just the name of the Outcasts home planet of Malta, and the structure of the Cardamine Cartels suggest strong Italian connections.
' Wrote:Hungarian and Polish close to German? The countries are close, the languages certainly not. Slavic and Germanic languages have huge differences, starting with the alphabet.
I meant by distance for those two.. Just like I said French named systems should be on the outer edges of Bretonia because France is very close to England, Canada close to America, so Hungarian/Polish systems close to Rheinland.
The Hungarians and Polish were Coalition, mostly. Eastern Bloc and all that.
And France doesn't deserve its own house. They got mauled at the very outset of the Sol Wars, caught out by the Coalition's sneak attacks. They're either all dead or all speaking Russian and drinking vodka now, I'm afraid.
"The game begins with a surprise attack on Fort Kennedy, where a peace treaty turns into a bloodbath: all of the inner four planets are overrun, including Terra herself, and the Italian and French fleets are utterly lost. "
I haven't played that game in years, but it sounds about right.