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Offline DarthBindo
02-01-2012, 11:26 AM,
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I can tell you that even before the "buff", novas were fierce.
Back in the day of TF7, raptor squadron would be able to easily get three four bombers in a LN-RM cap fight.
Drop novas at 1k, ram in at high speed and put four snacs into his shield, and boom.
watch anywhere from half to a eighth of his hull (depending on his mounted capital armor of choice) disappear in less than twenty seconds for the cost of four Novas and four upholder power plants.
If you had eight bombers with double novas....
pppffffft. dead turtle in one pass.
EDIT: with proper coordination, eight bombers, double novas, would result in the use of
four novas for the shield, and then twelve novas impacting hull nearly simutaneously if the guy doesn't use his bats.
EDITEDIT:
But eight ships of any kind should be able to rape a single ship.

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Offline Govedo13
02-01-2012, 08:41 PM, (This post was last modified: 02-01-2012, 08:42 PM by Govedo13.)
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Novas are mega broken- they need less damage and bigger explosion range. In 4.85 battleship had fair chance vs 2 bombers, this is not the case in 4.86. Novas does not work well vs smaller ships right now.
Novas do a way too much shield dmg right now.
However fixing solaris( 4.85 stats with 4.86 range) would improve the situation, this together with flak receiving more range and less energy per shot.

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Offline Nicolas
02-01-2012, 08:55 PM,
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In my opinion Novas are fine now since you can`t carry an endless amount. And a BS stupid enough to fly without any support deserves to die.
What I would like to see is some possibility to detonate Novas with gunfire/CD to give support ships the opportunity to defend the cap.
Though this would throw up the big problem of heavy bombers detonating their Novas with CDs in a horde of snubs...

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Offline DarthBindo
02-01-2012, 09:15 PM,
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' Wrote:Though this would throw up the big problem of heavy bombers detonating their Novas with CDs in a horde of snubs...
Something like this can already be done by targeting a nova to a mine.
It's quite effective.

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Offline McNeo
02-02-2012, 12:45 AM,
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Actually, I'm reliably informed that if you target a nova torpedo directly, as in selecting it as your main target, you will detonate it if you fire a CD and it hits. That does take a bit of extra work though...
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Offline RmJ
02-02-2012, 01:01 AM,
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I just got done being spammed by Nova's needless to say I should have died with 4 nova's every 4 seconds (as it seemed like). But I didn't... even with my unarmored cruiser.

I'm new to being a cap pilot so I am not sure how to really feel about the amount of torps that were slugged at me. I lost nearly all my guns and had a sliver of HP left.

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Offline Grumblesaur
02-02-2012, 01:15 AM,
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Novas are fine.

A way a lone a last a loved a long the riverrun, past Eve and Adam's, from swerve of shore to bend of bay,
brings us by a commodius vicus of recirculation back to Howth Castle and Environs.
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Offline Ayatolah
02-02-2012, 01:22 AM,
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Novas are awesome as they are now, i i was biased by the .85 bug, so i had to use SNAC for having some efectiveness... now is over, and things are as they should have been, the SNAC received a severe nerf, while the novas was fixed...

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Offline Dusty Lens
02-02-2012, 01:35 AM,
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' Wrote:Novas are fine.

My name is Dusty Lens and I am a bomber whore.

Novas are problematic.

At the moment the principle defense large caps have against novas would be a colorful wall of flak. A defense which demands excellent attention to detail, a large reserve of energy and the removal of your focus and energy from the battle proper while I sit a small eternity away chain firing novas and watching as you rapidly deplete your energy stores trying to deflect the homing snacs you're otherwise very unlikely to shoot down.

Also I have a friend on your other side lobbing novas. Whoops.

I think I get the point of the flak wall. Thing is it's a lot harder to use flaks than it is to use novas. Flaks take up a lot of energy and they're not much good if I've got a pretty decent surround on you.

Might be nice if the BS pilot could opt to shoot down the novas in other fashions in a reasonable manner.

It would be nicer still if nova torp HP would be reduced so the escorts everyone is always screaming about could reasonably play the roll of nova chaser, allowing for that Liberator to flit about shooting down Fafnir Novas before they turn a couple of LNS heavies inside out. Wouldn't that be nice?

I think it'd be nice.

I like flying bombers and chain sniping your caps. I'd also like flying about shooting down nova torps and going trololo.
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Offline Omicron
02-02-2012, 01:41 AM, (This post was last modified: 02-02-2012, 01:42 AM by Omicron.)
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Give LF's ability to shoot down Nova's that way or another. Give FLAK's to cruisers or... reduce power requirement to zero so actualy be able to setup pernament one-directional unpenetrable for all kinds of missile wall of fire during combat... as it is 3d space it's not like Novas will automaticaly render useless... rest of bombers will attack from other side.

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