' Wrote:Cruiser : Its way too big. It turns like a brick, and doesnt have enough armour or guns to fend itself in stationary position. And the points Gezza mentioned.
It has Kusari Dessie hitbox and is basically the same in size, the lower part of the ship is not covered. So don't get where you got "way too big" from.
It turns slowly yes, I'd say it should turn as fast as the Kusari dessie.
You are right it's not usable in stationary position... neither is the Kusari desssie that only has 2 guns firing backward.
Quote:Gunboat : Its being used, but only by 1/7th of all the Blood Dragon's. Mainly because of its agillity, if say, compared to the Kusari Gunboat. If the two were to meet head on, the Dragon one should just stop moving and wait for death. Thats gonna take even more time than figthing.
Ehm... you know that Kusari GB dies to some 6 Dragonfly missiles regardless of armor?
And to 3 Nuke mines?
Not to mention it has 1/5 (4 forward) guns compared to 1/6 of the Dragon?
Sorry but I still believe it only needs better fitting hitbox.
Not all BD ships need to be the best in their class don't you think?
Igiss says: Martin, you give them a finger, they bite off your arm.
' Wrote:It has Kusari Dessie hitbox and is basically the same in size, the lower part of the ship is not covered. So don't get where you got "way too big" from.
Not all BD ships need to be the best in their class don't you think?
I agree. The hitboxes need to be fixed. But the Kusari Destroyer one just doesnt suit our cruiser. Fly both of them, i say.
As for the "best of their class". No, since we actually got good pilots. But im damn proud of my faction and ill admit, i want everything to be perfect. Not the best, but perfect on its own.
@ Aom. Rough drawing? Ill try n get one tonight.
Edit : Mjolnir,
That right now, is the hitbox of the Dragon Gunboat, a squashed Rheinland Gunboat... well, the front doesn't fit, and the back doesn't fit...
The Hitbox for the Blood Dragon cruiser isn't AS bad, but it's still messed up..
As for the "Not every ship needs to be the best" thing, these changes won't happen until next version, by when, it's VERY likely that the Blood Dragon HF and Bomber would have made worse, so if the capital ships aren't upgraded, the Blood Dragon ship line would be quite messed up.
I would use the Kusari criuser if i had a character that had a reason to, but not for a while.
Anyway it doesnt need more guns, give it more agility. I just imagine the Kusari as agility and manuverability minded people.
I have no Kusari characters so I'm just running my fingers. Theres my two cents.
I myself have a Blood Dragon Cruiser it does fly like a brick as said by Exile but if you lay your guns out evenly defence turrets I also use missile turrets for NPC fights and such but I have never had a problem taking on anything in it unless im swarmed by bombers. the main thing you have to do in it is not just move forward you need to use the dirrectional movement keys if you have them set and if at all try and keep the enemy in front or behind you because most the guns on that thing fire most froward and backwards.
Oh and one last thing dont use the Forward Dragon Gun unless you know for sure you will hit them or its a waste of most your energy.
AoM's ships are great, if we talk about models. As for balance, many things matter here. As of current, I don't even have any systematic info on which ships need to be rebalanced and how. Only occasional data on several ships.
So, keep up with your work, and submit the upgraded versions when ready!
I was thinking on that Barghest myself. The idea I came up with was to make a sort of Super Heavy Bomber. Give it freighter shields, 6 forward guns, 3 turrets that can face any direction including forward, and up the bots/bats count to something akin to the Spatial. Finally, give it a third torp/cd slot. Or maybe just a cd slot for the third one. That would make it a very effective (and very nasty) bomber, but it's still big and slow enough for a fighter to take it out.
Okay, thanks so far. I'll do what i can, but i'm busy and cannot promise to get it all done til next version. Custom hitboxes for new and overworked models have priority. All others will be made in combination with model revision.
A last question. Shall the Dragon Cruiser keep its assymetric shape?
for all I know, blood dragons getting caps was a bad idea since the beginning (they shouldnt have any for what I care).
But as you mentionned, they are terribly bad against bombers. They hence need to be made for interception style operations.
meaning, a reduced size. The cruiser, the gunboat are huge. Look at the kusari gunboat, it is awesome because of its very slim shape. Same goes for the destroyer, which is perhaps as large or so as the M26.