the BHG gunship is fine, except for its star wars origin. - i don t consider it too strong, but thats just me. - however, flames and nasty comments left and right will lower your fun, and in the gunship, you ll get them, even if they re unjust or just, who knows.
the orca, never had one. - i thought its only the front gun that isn t working properly. - ( i am one of those that unmounts front guns and replaces them with other guns - but i read in frozens trial thread that "there are jerks who even unmount front guns in favour for fighter missiles" - dang, i gotto say to myself, i must be one of them... ( allthough i never had any missile turrets on my kusari GB when i replaced the front gun - but since i and you don t wanne be jerks, ... i guess there s no go:)[ there is an advantage ... a GB front gun has a limited fire arc, when replaced with a fighter gun, that one gun has a full 360 degree arc ] - but jerk, none the less )
the liberty GB "should" work. firstly, its produced in such large numbers that it shouldn t be a problem, secondly, - in theory, the BHG has a very good understanding of the liberty house and so has liberty with the BHG. - reality is different though. - so you gotto decide what you like to prefer... the game lore, or the player opinions.
bretonian/kuari GB won t work. - that is just me though, cause both factions are at war and will not sell them to someone that "may" work for the side that pays him more. a BHG is not an uncertainty factor like a common merc, but he is still not the army.
rheinland GB, - basicly its OK to get it. the BHG has no problems with rheinland, never had.. but thats again only NPC game lore. - again, reality looks vastly different and you won t get one.
IMG gunboat - while i believe it might be OK to buy one.... IMG is a cooperation and very much after making money. BHGs are quite unlikely to attack the IMG, cause its against their lawful codex, too. so if the representitive faction says "ok" - its fine. the IMG gunboat is good at strafing from a distance, but otherwise pretty big - a well balanced ship.
edit: since BHG and order are at a very same war as bretonia and kusari, i m allways surprised to see non BHGs in their ships, too... .
so, from my point of view. - the best choice is either orca or IMG GB, closely followed by the liberty GB. for all the rest, you re bound to present us a thrilling story - preferably not about theft:P.
edit 2: i dont like the argument that "in 4.85 its being fixed" too much. - we don t even have a date for the update yet ( unless i missed it ) - so i think its still quite some time to go.
@Jinx: I never considered the Kusari gb to be an option, since Kusari has a certain distrust of the gajin BH. And thus, very unlikely would they sell any military hardware to a BH.
The Rheinland gb seems to maneuver like school bus driving on flat tires. And it's coyote ugly - a veritable duplo-lego ship. Besides, RM wouldn't much care for a BH piloting one of their ships. I am compelled, on occasion, to travel through Rheinland space. I have a working relationship with RM and would like to keep it that way.
As far as "stealing" a ship goes - not my style. Not worth the aggravation, either.
This gs topic has gotten me to thinking about the culture on this server and how I participate in this culture. I do like to win (like most people), but I don't consider myself to be a "win at all costs" type. I try to play fair and take others into consideration, all the while rping, with variable success. That's why I started to think about switching from the BH gs to another gb.
One side of this little dilemma are those who think it's a ship with godlike abilities. My view is subjective, but I would still argue that the gs is not a godlike, pwnzr ship. Not even with mk 8 cap armor. Anyone worth his salt can beat a gs in a Lunchbox. Been there, done that, got blown up.
Nonetheless, the gs elicits a lot of negative feelings from the more active forum readers. It's too small, too evasive, too many guns, too much cargo space, too many used, et cetera et ad nauseum. It's apparent, that this ship cramps some peoples' style. In a way, I can understand this. I don't want to go out of my way to make someone miserable.
On the otherside of this dilemma is me trying to enjoy a game. To be honest, I don't see that happening much from the cockpit view of the Orca in its current state. I don't see why, that a large, well-financed, battle-hardened guild gets stuck with something like the Orca. Don't these guys take on Sirius' most hardened criminals, a reputed terrorist organization and an alien menace?
BH are often in situations facing overwhelming odds and serious enemy hardware, but they get a gb with a front gun that can't hit the neutron star in Omega-41. Ok, that was pure hyperbole, but you get my point. Ok, you can hit an Osiris with one, but try the same shot against an IMG gb or even a Lunchbox. Good luck and may the Schwarz be with you. Odd that I can hit the same targets with a Liberty gb but not with the Orca.
I should be able to lead my target, aim and hit that same target without performing some funky acrobatics that leave me very exposed to return fire. Myself and other BHs aren't asking for doomsday ship to pwn all pwnzrs, just one that makes the enemy work hard for a kill. A ship worthy of the Guild, i.e. a fixed Orca.
@Athenian: Don't worry mate. I don't think that the gs will be put in dry dock just yet. Against all instincts of self-preservation, I guess I'll buy an Orca as a second ship just to make the "bad guys" happy once in a while. Playing on this sever is an exercise of give and take.
use the IMG GB if you see it as such a big problem...I don't, but then again I'm not much of a GB vs GB fight fan. Vs fighters/bombers Orca works well, vs Cruisers/BS in groups as well.
IMG GB still "feels" better than a Liberty GB to me.
EDIT: The forward gun is LVL 7 gun mount only... so only thing you can mount there is lvl 7 fighter gun.. nothing else. I just checked the other GBs as well.... look like this is true for all of them now. Large ones can only get lvl 8 fighter guns there.. nothing else.
Igiss says: Martin, you give them a finger, they bite off your arm.
Stick with your gunship. I know it has a small hit box but oh well. I deal with it and compensate. People will whine no matter what you get. People also whine more when they are loseing. If you bail out on the gunship then go Orca. I have yet to see a balance complaint thread from some one who just won too much against other players.
Scorn, did you see Mjolnir's thread about his usage of the Bounty Hunter Gunship? That's exactly a complaint thread from "someone who won too much against other players"...
@bluntpencil: I have fooled around awhile back with putting missles and guns in place of the original front gun. Not terribly effective. Without a front gun, you're toast when being engaged by other cappies.
Sure, with a missle I can target a fighter's subsystems, but lvl 7 missles don't pack much punch. Same applies to guns. Pretty, but ineffective, light show.
@mjolnir: No, I probably won't get a Liberty gb. I'll probably just get an Orca as a second ship after I get enough money for mk 8 cap armor. The IMG gb just doesn't do it for me. Some people call it balanced - I call it boring. Anyhoo, from an rp perspective, the Liberty gb would be a more likely option, but that's just my opinion.
I have no doubt the Orca will be fixed. But until it is (which might be quite a long time) I need a good ship to hunt with.
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