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Bombers VS Capital Ships, Balance Needed

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Bombers VS Capital Ships, Balance Needed
Offline nOmnomnOm
10-06-2013, 04:44 AM,
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(10-06-2013, 12:13 AM)KAWISH-ALI Wrote: Capital ships are bees against bombers, please introduce a missile launcher class for caps faster then current missiles fast like cruise disrupt and can easily down bombers , i mean capitals are capitals cannot be destroyed by small crafts, its really annoying when you are hopeless and cant do a $%^ against small annoying craft. really . thanks .

There is a reason why its called a "BOMBER"
What? Do you want the BS to be the ultimate ship and nothing cant kill it? No. You get a ship class than when in a pair or in 3 can take on a BS and win.

Pretty straight forward.

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Offline Flash™
10-06-2013, 04:52 AM,
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LOL. What I read the quote on NomNoms post. Just LOL

Missiles like CDs to easily kill Bombers, thats just funny ahahhahaha. Seroiusly, if that happens, remove all snubs and everything else from server, we will all just fly Battleships hehe.

Battleships aren't supposed to be surperior to everything, it has weak points. Bomber Squads, theres a reason why they are called Bombers, because they put out big damage, and bomb something. If Battleship wants to not die to Bombers, try to get anti snub guns and aim them instead of request CD type missiles so you can spam them.

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Offline aerelm
10-06-2013, 06:02 AM,
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(10-06-2013, 01:14 AM)Scumbag Wrote: If you don't see how stupid it is to have a game with huge imposing, intimidating capital ships manned by hundreds of capable trained people, designed for planetary conquests, space exploration and glorious battles, that die when atacked by two puny ships with one cannon each. Then there is no cure for you, sorry.

If you don't see how said capital ship is actually controlled by a single player and giving it too much power would make any other ship class obsolete, and simply put every player in the "properly portrayed" battleship which has become the ultimate ship for any type of encounter. Then there is only disappointment for you, sorry.
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Offline Scumbag
10-06-2013, 06:32 AM, (This post was last modified: 10-06-2013, 06:34 AM by Scumbag.)
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Concentrate on the damn snacs, they are the problem, it's like you only see the parts of the comments that you want to see. I talk about SNACS and you read battleships, battleships, battleships. Let's try again with simple words and phrases.

Consider this situation ideal for capitals: Open space, highly skilled capital pilots, two noob bomber pilots.

A capital ship against two bombers with snacs will be destroyed. It only takes time. There is no chance for survival.

Two capital ships against two bombers with snacs will be destroyed. It only takes time. Maybe they kill one bomber if they are lucky.

A capital ship against two bombers with torpedoes can survive. He can use flaks. He can dodge. If cruiser can use CD. Bombers will run out of ammo eventually.

If there are 3 bombers then the capitals have absolutely no chance of survival.


Get it now? Nerf the damn snacs, half the damage, they could still kill transports and gunboats in decent time. Still could kill fighters in one shot (for those "OMG i'm so skilled" pvpers).

I am willing to test this anytime, i don't have a capital, only bombers, i will take a friend and we will battle it out in Conn against any capital ship with any loadout you want.
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Offline Thargoid
10-06-2013, 06:38 AM,
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Why?

There are enough caps about, making them even more OP would increse their use.
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Offline Scumbag
10-06-2013, 06:51 AM,
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Because people trade to buy battleships. Because trade is the backbone the game. Nothing to buy, no trade. No trade no pirates. No pirates, no lawfulls. NO GAME.

Hence since battleships are shit and you die in 5 minutes against bombers that are so close that can you hit them sometimes but can't really lower their shields the frustration builds up and you give up on all the time spent on trading for that battleship and leave. Just look at the player count stats. So NO GAME
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Offline Valrin
10-06-2013, 07:18 AM,
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You are making NO sense here with your SNAC talking.
I have been in a fight with my Bretonia battleship vs 2 bombers with SNACs...they got close to hit me I pounded the ---- out of them, and half the time they missed me. I won that fight easy. I was in a fight with 2 bombers with novas...they sat on ether side of me shooting novas so I could not flak them all. I lost in a few minutes.
So I do not see why you are saying SNACs are to good.

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Offline Flash™
10-06-2013, 07:21 AM, (This post was last modified: 10-06-2013, 07:24 AM by Flash™.)
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Only thing I see here is bad BS pilots against 2 Bombers. I've never died to 2-3 Bombers in my BS, its the BS pilot that sucks really :|

Edit: BOMBERS HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS. Big letters in case some don't see....

Anyways, The Cap Pilots complain Bombers OP with dem Snacs, they don't look at themselves and their cap piloting skills. Before you post a complaint or go QQing about Bombers being OP, watch yourself pilot a cap. Also, I've seen a Light Fighter solo a Cruiser, its OP also? Nerf LFs? No, its the cap pilots that have no clue how to counter Bombers.

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Offline nOmnomnOm
10-06-2013, 07:23 AM,
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(10-06-2013, 06:32 AM)Scumbag Wrote: Concentrate on the damn snacs, they are the problem, it's like you only see the parts of the comments that you want to see. I talk about SNACS and you read battleships, battleships, battleships. Let's try again with simple words and phrases.

Consider this situation ideal for capitals: Open space, highly skilled capital pilots, two noob bomber pilots.

A capital ship against two bombers with snacs will be destroyed. It only takes time. There is no chance for survival.

Two capital ships against two bombers with snacs will be destroyed. It only takes time. Maybe they kill one bomber if they are lucky.

A capital ship against two bombers with torpedoes can survive. He can use flaks. He can dodge. If cruiser can use CD. Bombers will run out of ammo eventually.

If there are 3 bombers then the capitals have absolutely no chance of survival.


Get it now? Nerf the damn snacs, half the damage, they could still kill transports and gunboats in decent time. Still could kill fighters in one shot (for those "OMG i'm so skilled" pvpers).

I am willing to test this anytime, i don't have a capital, only bombers, i will take a friend and we will battle it out in Conn against any capital ship with any loadout you want.

I have a few things for you.

Learn to TS.
Learn To shoot.
Learn your gun layout.
Learn to know when to run when you are flying a cow and being attacked by rats.

Go get a CAU8
Go have fun playing with Flak Turrets and Solaris. Really. Go try it.
A little anti-bomber support don't hurt either buddy.

Bombers carry and can deal SLOW but HARD damage. Deal with it.

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Offline Flash™
10-06-2013, 07:27 AM,
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Using groups for guns also helps. I've seen BSs using every single gun in one group, dieing gloriously to 2 Bombers and then QQing saying we fly only OP ships.

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