(04-20-2014, 10:37 AM)Troyan12345 Wrote: Sure give all the stuff to faction then make threads : How to stop people from leaving disco
Are you implying, that people only join Discovery if they are promised free stuff?
Stimulation. Also people dont like grinding weeks just to be able to RP and have fun
(04-20-2014, 10:40 AM)Moriarty. Wrote:
(04-20-2014, 10:37 AM)Troyan12345 Wrote: Sure give all the stuff to faction then make threads why we dont have new players.
Wow, most of them who stay around here for long, didnt recieve any free stuff in their beginning days. Dont rage, that he didnt give you stuff. If you are so intolerant to make money yourself, then you are not a good option in the long run for this mod.
Have i said anywhere : GIVE ME STUFF OR I QUIT. No i don't think so.
I have a 5k trans a bomber and a miner i dont need anything else.
(04-20-2014, 10:37 AM)Troyan12345 Wrote: Sure give all the stuff to faction then make threads why we dont have new players.
Wow, most of them who stay around here for long, didnt recieve any free stuff in their beginning days. Dont rage, that he didnt give you stuff. If you are so intolerant to make money yourself, then you are not a good option in the long run for this mod.
Have i said anywhere : GIVE ME STUFF OR I QUIT. No i don't think so.
I have a 5k trans a bomber and a miner i dont need anything else.
Then why are you telling him to give stuff to new players instead of factions?
Factions benefit from free stuff, they give it to their new recruits. So, if at all a new guy wanted to get free stuff, he has to join a faction, so that in the process of getting the stuff, he will also work with the faction members and learn how things work here, and learn what is RP.
If you give it to a new guy, nothing better happens. Say anything that might justify your rage statement, in case you are trying to be the representative for "new stuff to newbies or dai" association.
(04-20-2014, 10:37 AM)Troyan12345 Wrote: Sure give all the stuff to faction then make threads why we dont have new players.
Wow, most of them who stay around here for long, didnt recieve any free stuff in their beginning days. Dont rage, that he didnt give you stuff. If you are so intolerant to make money yourself, then you are not a good option in the long run for this mod.
Have i said anywhere : GIVE ME STUFF OR I QUIT. No i don't think so.
I have a 5k trans a bomber and a miner i dont need anything else.
Then why are you telling him to give stuff to new players instead of factions?
Factions benefit from free stuff, they give it to their new recruits. So, if at all a new guy wanted to get free stuff, he has to join a faction, so that in the process of getting the stuff, he will also work with the faction members and learn how things work here, and learn what is RP.
If you give it to a new guy, nothing better happens. Say anything that might justify your rage statement, in case you are trying to be the representative for "new stuff to newbies or dai" association.
Srsly just because my forum reg is from a month ago does not mean im new.
I played since 85 but quited for 2 years and my forum account got deleted.
I have not raged at anypoint my idea is that giving somthing to a new player would stimulate them and increse their happiness because they wont have to grind a day or two just to get that shiny new ship they dreamed about when they downloaded the mod . And while yes giving stuff to factions does help, Factions these days have Tons of money because they are kept by the old player base, It wont hurt a faction to spend 30 mil on a new guy that wants to join they dont need handouts to do so. The best thing would be to give these ships to newer factions .
Factions dont have money, their members have. And the members are not generous to donate to the faction coffers since they still do play and they need money for various other things that they do here. And it is not about you being new or not.
Shiny stuff to people who cant just wait for some days(in the current situation of the mod, its just some days, instead of some months) is a clear indication that they are not a good go for the long run. See, they reduced the toughness of grinding cash on the server, and there are not many who are staying for long on this server.
Why? Because if they get money easily, they can test out almost all kinds of ships within a months time and when they have done that, they are bored to do anything more. Since, they have not worked hard nor have they known the importance of interacting with others in here(the very reason of this game).
But in contrast, if they had worked hard to get those ships, they would not have the heart to leave the server so early since of the time they invested in getting those stuff. And most importantly, they would have known the value of RP, and they would have realised that it is the real fun in here and not the shiny ships that the mod has to offer.
The problem here is not that new players are coming here. I can see a lot of them, lot of forum accounts being created every day. But the problem is that the said new players dont stay long, i.e, they are not consistent in the server
I know this is Genneral Discussion but come on. Keep it on topic.
Now...
(04-20-2014, 09:34 AM)sindroms Wrote: Keep it and use it on something useful.
*raises eyebrow*
Like?
(04-20-2014, 09:44 AM)JayDee Wrote: You could make a lottery. Like making thread and everyone who want the money will post in thread once. then you make a dice and choose the winner(s). 1.4 bil can go to 10 person max I guess. Could be fair and not biased. Everything will depend on luck and your own honesty.
Competitions usually arent fair. Someone who lives in correct TZ will have everything while others will have nothing.
Lottery dones't sound so bad. But I don't like the dice idea. Still..
(04-20-2014, 09:48 AM)St.Denis Wrote: You can always do what I have done before.
I have sold all the equipment on each ship and then have sat watching the low level characters in Pennsylvania. If they are doing the Helium run in their new start ships I have given cash to them. If you do this you can send the money anonymously if you don't require/want thanks.
Now this is a good idea. Untill they get a libby dread and start rampaging.
/sarcasm
(04-20-2014, 09:50 AM)Katana Wrote: I say donate it to a few factions who deserve it
What factions whould deserve it?
(04-20-2014, 10:36 AM)Lythrilux Wrote: If you have any Junker ships or ships that can be turned into Junker ships, pass them over to your old pals at JM 8)
(04-20-2014, 11:09 AM)Moriarty. Wrote: Factions dont have money, their members have.
I'll just intercept you here and tell you that you are wrong. Factions do have bank accounts and those accounts hold the money. Sure, the leaders own the funds, but those funds are used for faction stuff mostly.
(04-20-2014, 11:09 AM)Moriarty. Wrote: Factions dont have money, their members have.
I'll just intercept you here and tell you that you are wrong. Factions do have bank accounts and those accounts hold the money. Sure, the leaders own the funds, but those funds are used for faction stuff mostly.
The thing that I proceeded to say was, the members are the one having generous money as he stated. Faction coffers dont have a big ransom. They hardly have money for getting some RP stuff done, and such.
(04-20-2014, 11:09 AM)Moriarty. Wrote: Factions dont have money, their members have. And the members are not generous to donate to the faction coffers since they still do play and they need money for various other things that they do here. And it is not about you being new or not.
Shiny stuff to people who cant just wait for some days(in the current situation of the mod, its just some days, instead of some months) is a clear indication that they are not a good go for the long run. See, they reduced the toughness of grinding cash on the server, and there are not many who are staying for long on this server.
Why? Because if they get money easily, they can test out almost all kinds of ships within a months time and when they have done that, they are bored to do anything more. Since, they have not worked hard nor have they known the importance of interacting with others in here(the very reason of this game).
But in contrast, if they had worked hard to get those ships, they would not have the heart to leave the server so early since of the time they invested in getting those stuff. And most importantly, they would have known the value of RP, and they would have realised that it is the real fun in here and not the shiny ships that the mod has to offer.
The problem here is not that new players are coming here. I can see a lot of them, lot of forum accounts being created every day. But the problem is that the said new players dont stay long, i.e, they are not consistent in the server
Faction leaders should be tacking care of their members.
I had 3 of my Real life friends play. All of them quit because It was too boring to grind for hours just to able to enjoy the game. Even If u RP how does that make grinding fun . And no people dont leave because they have all they want. Its because they have no friends in game and if they make connections with people they will stay . But here is the F*** : People who dont like grinding didnt play this mod before People who liked doing stuff like that and interacting with others did. In case A no matter how many friends you have in game that wont make the game more enjoyable in case B will like grinding and RPing with their friends. The sad thing is Type B people dont exist these days as they have moved away from freelancer. So to sum it up Even is its easy or hard for you to get ships that dosent mean that you would play for a long time or not .