(12-10-2015, 03:43 PM)Lythrilux Wrote: A gunboat destroyed a fleet of snubs? Sounds fine, since Gunboats are the anti-snub shipclass. Rather than complaining the shipclass is overpowered, you might find it easier to simply adopt the appropriate shipclass to deal with a gunboat.
Gunboats, Cruisers, Battlecruisers, Battleships, Bombers and even groups of Transports can shoot up gunboats.
Wasn't just a fleet of snubs, and nah we killed that guy. I'm talking recently, where a gunboat can kill every ship you just named times three.
EDIT: To clarify, I want them to kill snubs. That's what they're for. I don't want one gunboat killing an entire fleet of Gunboats, Cruisers, Battleships, bombers and transports. That's stupid.
I've never seen a single gunboat take out more than 2 battleships without support.
I've watched one kill 5. Without support. It's entirely possible. They shouldn't be able to kill one alone.
(12-10-2015, 03:43 PM)Lythrilux Wrote: A gunboat destroyed a fleet of snubs? Sounds fine, since Gunboats are the anti-snub shipclass. Rather than complaining the shipclass is overpowered, you might find it easier to simply adopt the appropriate shipclass to deal with a gunboat.
Gunboats, Cruisers, Battlecruisers, Battleships, Bombers and even groups of Transports can shoot up gunboats.
Wasn't just a fleet of snubs, and nah we killed that guy. I'm talking recently, where a gunboat can kill every ship you just named times three.
EDIT: To clarify, I want them to kill snubs. That's what they're for. I don't want one gunboat killing an entire fleet of Gunboats, Cruisers, Battleships, bombers and transports. That's stupid.
I've never seen a single gunboat take out more than 2 battleships without support.
I've watched one kill 5. Without support. It's entirely possible. They shouldn't be able to kill one alone.
Name/loadout what ships was it fighting and how skilled were those ships.
(12-10-2015, 03:43 PM)Lythrilux Wrote: A gunboat destroyed a fleet of snubs? Sounds fine, since Gunboats are the anti-snub shipclass. Rather than complaining the shipclass is overpowered, you might find it easier to simply adopt the appropriate shipclass to deal with a gunboat.
Gunboats, Cruisers, Battlecruisers, Battleships, Bombers and even groups of Transports can shoot up gunboats.
Wasn't just a fleet of snubs, and nah we killed that guy. I'm talking recently, where a gunboat can kill every ship you just named times three.
EDIT: To clarify, I want them to kill snubs. That's what they're for. I don't want one gunboat killing an entire fleet of Gunboats, Cruisers, Battleships, bombers and transports. That's stupid.
I've never seen a single gunboat take out more than 2 battleships without support.
I've watched one kill 5. Without support. It's entirely possible. They shouldn't be able to kill one alone.
What loadout did they have? I can imagine a gunboat accomplishing that with old GB cerbs - but they'd have to be very good and very coordinated whilst the battleships would have to be the opposite.
(12-10-2015, 03:43 PM)Lythrilux Wrote: A gunboat destroyed a fleet of snubs? Sounds fine, since Gunboats are the anti-snub shipclass. Rather than complaining the shipclass is overpowered, you might find it easier to simply adopt the appropriate shipclass to deal with a gunboat.
Gunboats, Cruisers, Battlecruisers, Battleships, Bombers and even groups of Transports can shoot up gunboats.
Wasn't just a fleet of snubs, and nah we killed that guy. I'm talking recently, where a gunboat can kill every ship you just named times three.
EDIT: To clarify, I want them to kill snubs. That's what they're for. I don't want one gunboat killing an entire fleet of Gunboats, Cruisers, Battleships, bombers and transports. That's stupid.
I've never seen a single gunboat take out more than 2 battleships without support.
I've watched one kill 5. Without support. It's entirely possible. They shouldn't be able to kill one alone.
What loadout did they have? I can imagine a gunboat accomplishing that with old GB cerbs.
(12-10-2015, 03:47 PM)Vendetta Wrote: Wasn't just a fleet of snubs, and nah we killed that guy. I'm talking recently, where a gunboat can kill every ship you just named times three.
EDIT: To clarify, I want them to kill snubs. That's what they're for. I don't want one gunboat killing an entire fleet of Gunboats, Cruisers, Battleships, bombers and transports. That's stupid.
I've never seen a single gunboat take out more than 2 battleships without support.
I've watched one kill 5. Without support. It's entirely possible. They shouldn't be able to kill one alone.
What loadout did they have? I can imagine a gunboat accomplishing that with old GB cerbs.
You called it. Cerbs.
With cerbs against 5 battleships I can see the gb winning but then again you have to be pretty stupid to bring 5 battleships for 1 gunboat.
(12-10-2015, 03:53 PM)Wesker Wrote: I've never seen a single gunboat take out more than 2 battleships without support.
I've watched one kill 5. Without support. It's entirely possible. They shouldn't be able to kill one alone.
What loadout did they have? I can imagine a gunboat accomplishing that with old GB cerbs.
You called it. Cerbs.
With cerbs against 5 battleships I can see the gb winning but then again you have to be pretty stupid to bring 5 battleships for 1 gunboat.
Liberty is a fun place, isn't it? Anyways, point I'm trying to make is they shouldn't be able to kill one Battleship solo. They're designed for killing groups of fighters. Their cerbs should be effective up to Battlecruisers, which even then should be a challenge to kill.
(12-10-2015, 03:57 PM)Vendetta Wrote: I've watched one kill 5. Without support. It's entirely possible. They shouldn't be able to kill one alone.
What loadout did they have? I can imagine a gunboat accomplishing that with old GB cerbs.
You called it. Cerbs.
With cerbs against 5 battleships I can see the gb winning but then again you have to be pretty stupid to bring 5 battleships for 1 gunboat.
Liberty is a fun place, isn't it? Anyways, point I'm trying to make is they shouldn't be able to kill one Battleship solo. They're designed for killing groups of fighters. Their cerbs should be effective up to Battlecruisers, which even then should be a challenge to kill.
A lot of things shouldn't be able to do certain things but then again people's stupidity exceeds a ship limitations. 3 bombers can take out a battleship. Bombers aren't op it's just the battleship captian was being a mong by putting him/herself in that situation.
Kusari LFs - LFs are pretty useless honestly but if there's any that are OP within their class it's these. Smallest models in the game bar the Hayabusa, but retain 4 guns.
Saishi - highest responsiveness in the game, nonexistent front profile.
Switchblade - Like a Sabre, only much faster, smaller, and with better core regen.
Centurion - obvious case. It basically has the stats of the old Eagle but an incredibly hard to hit shape. Should have stayed a heavy fighter.
Wraith - again, pretty obvious. Good core, faster than several heavy fighters, compact model, and now without its primary weakness. Broken ship.
AI Drone - Still has its godlike firepower, still very tough (although less so), but now fast as well.
Cupholder - Who would have thought this thing would find itself here? Fastest bomber in the game despite the medium core and good hull. Absolutely no disadvantages except size.
Bergelmir - Doesn't seem to matter what they do to this. Miniscule, fast, good snac, five guns.
Hellfire Legion Gunboat - Haven't seen this very much, but....it's a combination of extremely high hull, large GB core and one of the highest turn rates of its class.
Edit: Yep, Lib Gunboat should be mentioned too. Light gunboat size, medium gunboat core and turn rate, heavy gunboat firepower.
Geb - Possibly the most overpowered ship in any class. Ridiculously small but also the fastest turning battleship, without even being very fragile. Completely broken.
Stork - Yes, the Stork has to be mentioned here. A 5k cargo ship the width of a fighter, covered in ablative armor plating. The larger 5kers are probably more than twenty times its volume. To top it off it even comes with a usable number of turrets!
This ship quite simply should not be a 5ker.