wasnt sol destroyed?

[Cellulanus]

Actually this has given me an idea for a story. Combined with mod skills that's something to try to play around with in a spare time, i.e. to model sol system how it would look like now. Just for fun.

Now that would be an interesting notion.

A system full of high radiation zones, explosive gas pockets, old minefields and tones of wreaks from the war...

[Nightmouse]

On a side note: can someone explain to me how that "young admiral" was able to follow the sleeper ships? I doubt he'd live long enough to reach Sirius, since the sleeper ships had jump drives and still took years to get there. Not to mention how he could ever get passed the nomads.

[Tubalcaine]

On a side note: can someone explain to me how that "young admiral" was able to follow the sleeper ships? I doubt he'd live long enough to reach Sirius, since the sleeper ships had jump drives and still took years to get there. Not to mention how he could ever get passed the nomads.

Hence the extended version being left out of the retail release, and the storyline thus being enhanced by the arrival of the previously unknown Nomads being what is called a plot twist.

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[Treewyrm]

His ship, the same one we see arriving to Manhattan settling in both versions of introductions (they didn't cut it out), bears close resemblance to sleeper ships in design, albeit not as large as they are, but possibly equipped for such travel. After all in Discovery french contingent of Alliance made their way to Sirius to become Gallia house via their own sleeperships even. Least not forget the in-game rumor about more sleeperships that set their sail to Sirius but never made to it and their destiny and even existence remains a mystery. As for passing the nomads: just a single nomad vessel that warped into that area, made it's shot and warped out quickly before the explosion. Never in any documents left were any more than that.

@Tubalcaine: Incorrect. It's not "extended" and never in genuine materials mentioned as such, it's called "original".

[Agmen of Eladesor]

And by the way - since EVERYTHING is Zelot's fault - he's the one that fired the missile that destroyed Sol.

:nono:Bad Zelot, no cookie!

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Oh god... The end of days... Agmen agreed with me.

[Dusty Lens]

On a side note: can someone explain to me how that "young admiral" was able to follow the sleeper ships? I doubt he'd live long enough to reach Sirius, since the sleeper ships had jump drives and still took years to get there. Not to mention how he could ever get passed the nomads.

His vessel, the Deus Ex Machina, was equipped with potent scanning equipment which he used to trace their ion trails.

[Sopheak203]

i was just wondering, the intro of FL didnt make sense, but now it does

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[Nightmouse]

I thought the previous one made more sense, but if the admiral's ship had jump drives, a good scanner and cryogenic (is that even a word?) tanks, I suppose it's plausible.
BUT why didn't they shoot that smaller sleeper ship in space, along with the others, I mean, if they intended it as an escape plan, which the sleepers are, they might as well use all of them at once, gives the Coalition more things to shoot at, less risk of getting shot down.

$0.02

[Treewyrm]

@Nightmouse: Some were left behind, including French contingent of the Alliance. The survivor(s) of the catastrophe as well as the ship itself were on the dark side of the Pluto. Watch the introduction closely: the sleeper ships launch facility was located on Europa, the Jupiter's sixth moon. The Alliance was in a hurry to launch these ships and get away, they barely made it in time, as it was said by the narrator. This is why things were left around. They left a lot behind really. A lot of tech, people. Which is why Gallia says the Alliance has betrayed them. Among other things left as well was the garrison at Pluto which was the first and the last to make the visible contact with the nomads' vessel during the battle with the Coalition on the bright side of the moon. As you can see there was simply no time to delay the sleeper ship launch to bring the reinforcements from other sectors with the Coalition on the orbit of Europa bombarding the surface already. If they stayed and waited for a bit longer and called everyone to Europa - we wouldn't have had four major houses in Sirius in Freelancer, and nobody would have made it out alive getting caught by the shock wave. The Alliance had to make these sacrifices, which later will come knocking down the back door.

Again, some people are saying it all doesn't make a lot of sense, but it does if you put all those little but important details together, if you'd be attentive to them.

[Klaw117]

I have a question on what is and isn't considered canon. The original intro is canon, but what about the idea of there being 8 sleeper ships? The idea of the 8 sleeper ship thing came from an Outcast rumor on Malta and also from the Liberty Backstory (which is in my sig). Now, the Outcast thing could just be nothing more than a rumor from some Outcast who was high/delirious from a cardamine overdose. What about the Liberty Backstory? I know that some parts of it are taken as canon such as Valhalla 1, which I consider to be the top secret research branch of Ageira Technologies, but then some parts aren't canon also, like the Order of Cincinnatus being the actual Order we know of today. The Order was created by Orillion only about a month before the SP Campaign. The Order of Cincinnatus was a secret military branch of the Liberty government. In fact, it is said the Order of Cincinnatus still operates today if we look at this quote I found:

The Order exists even today, the second most closely guarded secret in Liberty, though it has only met a handful of times.

Therefore, I highly doubt the Order of Cincinnatus would be the real Order we know of today. Many people think the Order of Cincinnatus=Orillion's Order, which is NOT canon and merely a misconception.

Now, if Valhalla 1 is canon, but the Order of Cincinnatus isn't (at least not canon in the way we think of it), what about the 8 sleeper ships? I found this quote in the Liberty Backstory saying:

Eight great ships were launched during the Exodus, each protecting their precious cargo of humanity deep within their metal wombs. They fled for the stars, away from the final spasm of war that swallowed their first home in fire and then in blackness. Somewhere out there they would make a new home, they would begin again and this time -- this time they would not repeat the mistakes that had been made before.

Eight great ships. Four were lost to accidents, to conflict, to the void. The names of the other four have become legend: Kusari, Rheinland, Bretonia, and Liberty...

So, do we consider this canon or not canon like the way we think of the Order of Cincinnatus?

If I confused anyone, I apologize. This is kind of hard to put in words. I'll try to clarify things if anyone asks.

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Carlos Rivera: Corsair Brotherhood Pirate - Retired, shifted to Tripoli Shipyard's Research and Development engineering teams
Anthony Cameron: Guild Core Bounty Hunter - Killed in Action, committed suicide after being trapped in Omicron Minor following its destruction
Juan Ruiz: Outcast Ghost of Razgriz Pirate - Killed in Action, killed by the Sirius Coalition Revolutionary Army during Bretonian piracy raid
Michael Winchester: Liberty Security Force Agent - Missing in Action, likely killed during Rheinland espionage mission or trapped in Rheinland Space
Eric McCormick: Order Pilot - Retired, shifted to planetside training of new recruits

Liberty and Nomad Backstory, Very interesting - read it!