Zoner whale needs weapons

[mjolnir]

as for the CM - if they are indeed not working ( that means failing too often when a CD / train CD was fired at it ) - i can rotate the CMs so that they "spill" the projectile further away from the ship ( like vertically instead of just drop it like a mine )
but ..... - for me, the CMs usually worked fine, unless i got spammed by CDs ( like nomad assassins spamming half a dozen train CDs )

Just yesterday I saw Zoner whale with Adv. CM evade 3 Reinforced CDs (the best cds in game, even better than train ones) by dropping CMs.

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[DAnvilFan]

Most armed transports don't stand a chance against pirate players. Bombers just do crazy amounts of damage.

[Camtheman Of Freelancer4Ever]

I threaten corsairs with cutting off the supply of food to crete, but most still pirate me... UGH.

Ussualy, CM's do not work, there does need to be an energy sucking CM with 99% Acuraccy/effectiveness.
I dropped 10 CM's in a row and a train CD still got my pirate transport. CM's have really just become a waste of money.

[Colonel.Tigh]

The CM works perfect, its the cheapest 5000 Transport, and its got countermasures.
The only way to stop it, is like you do with Liners, from the front, from the side, or more or less in direct contact; and spamming Traindisrupters.
Why complain, as long as the evildoer is behind you, you will always get away, Hvy. CM on autofire and jallajalla to the next base.

[geohxx]

All these people who dont fly in a Zoner Whale, must stay in silence.

Zoner Whale its a nice and fast cargo vessel, but its the more weak ship, and its impossible pass across some systems with powerfull enemies as Nomad Assasins in omicrons if they come in 2 or more wings
, you can do spam with CM, using all the b/bs but, that isnt enough, they will killyou ever.

"Against" pirates, a zoner can use diplomacy or social engineering, and the most powerfull "gun" in all Sirius, the money.

i think these ship need guns for seldefense against the NPCs.

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[tyro]

whale is good like it is.

[globalplayer-svk]

I threaten corsairs with cutting off the supply of food to crete, but most still pirate me... UGH.

Ussualy, CM's do not work, there does need to be an energy sucking CM with 99% Acuraccy/effectiveness.
I dropped 10 CM's in a row and a train CD still got my pirate transport. CM's have really just become a waste of money.

when you are not representing whole zoner nation,,, then, just bad luck for you.

and i dont know why, for me is cm working very good....

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[Benjamin]

Frankly, the difference between 4-5 turrets and no turrets is nothing against players. I'd rather take the CM.

Sure a few turrets will kill NPCs, but god damn man if you're in the zoner whale, you're a zoner. Killing isn't how you roll.

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[Clarkie]

The whale does not need weapons. I cant remember the last time I was succesfully pirated, because it's actually pretty hard to stop in the first place.

More to the point, if you're doing in-RP routes with it, you wont actually encounter that many pirates.

[Carme]

Okay, this discussion has run its course, *However*
I being a pristine Zoner Whale pilot, and RP'er over on Discovery USA,
Know that the vessel's CM alignment is PERFECT
and its diplomacy is neutral to all but aliens and terrorists.

It out turns all other SuperTransports by a high percentage.
(I have also flown the generic Adv. Train for ages back when I was on this server)
(Not tested the other Train-like ships, but they are statistically slower.)
It needs no weaponry at all.
If you need weapons in a Zoner Whale, hire escorts, get friends, or find other Zoners.
Or just plain get more skill.


HOWEVER

I would vouch for the Zoner whale getting ONE class-2 turret hardpoint on the top of the hull plating, because that can mount a single mining laser...
(class 2 turrets are all otherwise completely useless weapons)
This would balance it with all the other SuperTransports which can mine in fields, where the Zoner Whale cannot.