Pirating in a Freighter

[Archelon]

@ NEXUS: One problem with the liner - maneuverability. The trader can get away from you quickly and you end up getting stuck in trade lanes, jump gates, etc. The only effective weapon for a pirate is a gunboat. Fighters are too vulnerable and anything bigger than a gunboat is banned by the rules (with exception of the liner). And all those big ships are slugs when it comes to combat. They're only good when they are sitting still and in the turret view. And the trader is gonna get away as soon as you jump to the turret.

[Jwnantze]

Have you tried the Spatial? 3 Lvl 5 turrets, 4 lvl 10 guns, and 2 lvl 9 guns; coupled with a cd/t and dual mine droppers, 180 cargo, lots of armour and shield, and manueverability not much worse than a Titan.

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There is nothing worth living for, unless it is worth dying for. -Elizabeth Elliott

[Gamazson]

Except pirates can't use transports, nor liners. And liners are losing their gunboat equipment pretty soon.

Try a Tauranic Raiders Freighter. Lots of firepower, the most cargo of any freighter, and better shields than any fighter. Not good in a dogfight, but a lot more maneuverable than a transport. A good pirate freighter.

The ID says that yes, but not one admin has fined me for flying a transportner under pirate colours. The real reason why it was not written in the ID is because many consider it silly to fly such a large vessel that is so defenseless. Pirating with transports is tough (liners are currently similar to a GB, just more awkward due to size) but not impossible. Like a trader ID smuggling it is one of those common sense variation of the rules.

@ Archelon: yah it is tough as hell. Using a liner for pirating requires allot of patience. You must know the traders route and where to sit and wait for him. But in the case of the slavers union my whole RP is based around the theft of people. Makes zippo sense for me to demand money.

Of course the Union needs a major restructuring. With loss of the corfu run and the Nefing of the liners a major aspect of the unions RP has been vented out the airlock. Thankfully Igiss put in slaves as a commodity. But strickly flying those turns me into a smuggler. It might be best to restructure into the smugglers union.

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AKA Nexus

[me_b_kevin]

Thankfully Igiss put in slaves as a commodity. But strickly flying those turns me into a smuggler. It might be best to restructure into the smugglers union.

NOOOOOO!! Slavers Union is so much cooler than just a Smuggling Union. Do what Mon'Star does and "acquire" slaves from all these ships flying around LOL

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[Gamazson]

NOOOOOO!! Slavers Union is so much cooler than just a Smuggling Union. Do what Mon'Star does and "acquire" slaves from all these ships flying around LOL

Relax dreygon. My mind is working on the matter. I want to keep SU as what it started as. By the way, anyone found where slaves are sold yet in the new version? This has been driving me nuts............

Oh and sorry for side tracking the thread.

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AKA Nexus

[alance]

@ Morrigan: First, I'm not yelling. Second, you're not being ignored.

*THUD* - The sound of my head hitting my desk once again.

Your head would feel better if you actually read posts and quit assuming you know the content by the title.

I'm not saying you're trying to make a new rule. But before traders go criticizing the way pirates role play, you might wanna take a look at yourselves. Traders with military weapons and Armor Upgrade Mk VIII? And you wonder why I'm in a gunboat.

No I don't wonder why you're in a gunboat, I know exactly why you're in one... so you can more easily pirate and I don't deny you that right. If you'd read, you'd see that my idea includes reducing the combat ability of the transports so they can be pirated with more ship classes.

And I have done what you suggest. I've actually asked for cargo before. But there's really no money in that. If there were no profit in trading, would you still work as hard as you do moving cargo around? If the max you could make moving cargo were 800,000 credits, would you continue that occupation? There's more to pirate RP than demanding cargo. If it were about the cargo, I'd just go take it from the NPCs. They're easier to kill and I could get em by the boat load (no pun intended).

Guess what, I covered that too... you might remember I suggested bigger holds on Freighters/Privateers and making some of the freighters quite good at knocking off transports. I also suggested allowing Pirates to use Transports so they could team up and haul away big loads of loot.

We are both talking in circles. Your only point is to stop pirates demanding credits and start demanding cargo. That's not gonna happen unless there's a rule created for that. And I don't see that coming anytime soon.

The only circle here is the one you're wandering around in. My point has been stated several times and it continues to be simple "added options for piracy". When you and I first went round about Traders/Pirates in another thread I suggested that extortion piracy be banned, but that was rash and I don't think that's a good idea now. Since then via PMs and other threads I've pushed for more variety in piracy, period.

I'd like to see other factions chase a pirate out of the system or demand they pay a fine for piracy than just KOS every time they see us. But I don't see that happening anytime soon either. There's only a couple factions that actually engage in RP chit chat with us. So long as we don't cause trouble, we go about our business.

Yeah that'd be great, I hope more RP encounters like this happen. I also hope someone drops a nuke on all of the ooc dopes flying 30 feet from Harris to station in their container ships and trains. Lots of non-Rp crap to fix up, hope it happens.

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"To gain a hundred victories in a hundred battles is not the highest excellence;
to subjugate the enemy's army without doing battle is the highest of excellence."

[Archelon]

@ Morrigan: I think we're kinda on the same sheet of music. It may all be mute soon anyway. I've heard rumor of changes to my beloved Rogue Gunboat. Don't yet know the facts behind that yet. But it could pose a significant impact to my faction.