So the Molly's get independence

[LONGBOW]

What would happen if the Mollies got independence?

Give it to them and find out :cool:

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[Primitive]

Digging in the vaults I know that a lot of Corsair players at the time had issue with THIS little bit of "lore" given that as it was relayed to me ( and please correct me if im wrong) that Corsair players didn't actually have anything to do with it and it was just kind of presented as a fait acompli and then used to justify Molly hatred of the Corsairs. Given this Ive never been a fan of the "Cork" excuse, however, there it is.


What would the Mollies do if they were independent? They would need to shore up their power base for a start... they are vulnerable and surrounded by powerful enemies or the allies of powerful enemies. They would need to make Alliances and fast. Brettonia would be an obvious one, More revolutionary would be to actually make peace with the Corsairs (though this scenario is highly unlikely). They would need.. depending on the status of the war with Kusari also need to factor Kusari into the equation as well. Perhaps even Liberty to give them some extra safety. Then... an economy, they'd need one... they haz gold and so they would need to start peddling as fast as their ships could take them. Things would be grim after a war, soldiers would need to be stood down, ships decommissioned, families fed etc etc...
Actually, if there ever was an independent Molly nation for real I would love to see "Beer" being a commodity they made that was in high demand and a good trade commodity, that would be pure justice.

To be honest I don't know why "Cork" thing was added. The whole point that Corsairs want to expand on Bretonian territory is enough for Mollys to hate them. Because in this space of ours Bretonian territory includes Corsair expansion into Dublin. So Mollys are basically trying to liberate themselves from Bretonians while stopping Corsairs which would want to take Bretonian place. "Cork" thing is ridiculous, but since its there and until someone removes it, its legit reason for TOTAL HATRED....its a genocide basically (Only that nice amount of mollys managed to evacuate).

Yes, for the second part. Well this is what I see, they would have to sign some treaties, maybe with Bretonians if they admit defeat and stop trying to take Dublin back. And then Liberty etc. They would have whole system for all sort of production, mainly their profit would be in gold of course (And beer:)).

Things would be grim after the war, but old soldiers would be kept as a guard. Such as Molly navy and Molly police. Someone would have to keep an order inside the borders, and someone would have to do patrols and fight of Corsair attempts to strike at Bretonia and Molly House (:ylove:)

[Hone]

I dont think it HAS happened before, mollys have signed peace treaties with bretonia many times, but never actually got ownership of Dublin.

P.S. Bretonia will NEVER give Mollys Dublin, it makes them SO much too much money.

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[Laowai]

To be honest I don't know why "Cork" thing was added. The whole point that Corsairs want to expand on Bretonian territory is enough for Mollys to hate them. Because in this space of ours Bretonian territory includes Corsair expansion into Dublin. So Mollys are basically trying to liberate themselves from Bretonians while stopping Corsairs which would want to take Bretonian place. "Cork" thing is ridiculous, but since its there and until someone removes it, its legit reason for TOTAL HATRED....its a genocide basically (Only that nice amount of mollys managed to evacuate).

Basically the way it was put to me was the old Molly faction, the UoG wanted to put some information down for their gaurd system and so wrote it up. This has then been subsequently used to justify this supposed Molly hatred for the Corsairs - which, ok fair enough because its written there people are basing off it.
But from the old-school Corsair point of view it is a bit "wut?" considering that the players and factions had absolutely nothing to do with it. It would essentially be like a brettonian faction deciding to hate liberty because "Liberty bombarded Manchester and killed millions!!!!!" even though in game, it never happened and none of the Liberty players were involved at all.. it is to be honest, quite cheeky.

But as you say, its there. But you are right, quite frankly the Mollies have reason to shoot at Corsairs simply because Corsairs are in Dublin trying to steal their stuff.


Molly beer commodity icon btw MUST look like a dark stout in a pint glass... just sayin'.

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[Vogel]

Correct me if I'm wrong but the Mollies themselves are not, and never would be, a group so numerous and all-encompassing that any legitimate government would cede territory to. They're a bunch of brigands occasionally vowing separatism. Where is the majority of their popular support? Where's the "Molly People" or the "New Irish" who want that blasted system when it lacks any inhabitable planets?

[tansytansey]

Get drunk and have a party. Then proceed to fly about acting important, and telling other people what to do in their system and acting all quasi-lawful while flying their pirate ships.

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[Hone]

I think ashes nailed it there. Not that thats any different from what we used to do before the treaty failed.

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[SIN|]

I would love to see "Beer" being a commodity they made that was in high demand and a good trade commodity, that would be pure justice.

Amen.

Right now currently standing are two Molly Factions the [M] Mollys and The =MMC= Which was founded about 10 month ago by myself (Bellck) which is the first EVER Molly Mining Corporation to be built in disco (yes i think thats true).. Now what I'd say if the Molly's become a Nation we can sell our Gold Ore's to Junkers and IMG like we are today, the MMC cannot trade with normal trading corporations because of the ID's and the fact there were automatically redeemed hostile, But can this change to effect the Mining area of Dublin?

@Hone
No Bretonia will not give up Dublin, The BMM Fund the war with the Gold Ore they sell this was already approached previously with the help of MMC and Garda (Again 2 decent factions that wasn't official)

@ Everyone else

I support Molly's being independent currently in any Molly's eyes it is their system already but Bretonia forced there way in (this comes from a Senior Member of the Molly Council) Regarding Corsair raids this can also be switched around so finally Molly's get the opportunity to launch attacks and invade both Corsair tribes and Bretonia.
Also if Molly's did become Independent it would nice to see our own Battleships to fight Corsairs head to head for a real war and keep Bretonia off our lands (this would become our first intentions prior to becoming independent) Bretonia will want their land back and Corsairs shall invade more due to the take over.. Its an All Out Warzone in Dublin... Rather like Marmite, you either love it or hate it..

You know where i stand...

This comes from
BAF|Lt.Jason.Charles
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=MMC=Quinn (Ciaran.Quinn)

(talking from both sides of the table...)

Regards,
Bellck

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[Hexx]

Ashes nailed it, lulz.

Seriously though, who's to say they wouldn't ally to the broken Bretonian nation and bring the fight to Kusari?

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It's Hexx against the world.

Hexx won.