(10-09-2013, 10:51 AM)Knjaz Wrote: Official faction players that are often accused of elitism, never deploy them and have those weird, immersion killing "fair fight/dueling" suicidal hobbies. (yes, i've seen enough of those lolduels, where house military with overwhelming force on the field willingly loses a pilot in a duel. ffs.)
there were ppl who stated the opposite. - that its too powerful for such a small ship - with 5 medium turrets - it has some good sustained damage ( heavy BBs have 4 ) ... it has less light slots - but ... lets be honest - it doesn t need as many as the large BBs, cause its twice as easy to hit something. - and yes... it has only got one heavy slot - which is 360 degrees though
It is, but since all Corsair stuff was nerfed we'll just deal with it and like a good man said "we were too awesome with that what we had, now we will be just more awesome with more ****ty equipment..."
' Wrote:"Osiris is kinda ubernerfed and useless.. "
there were ppl who stated the opposite. - that its too powerful for such a small ship - with 5 medium turrets - it has some good sustained damage ( heavy BBs have 4 ) ... it has less light slots - but ... lets be honest - it doesn t need as many as the large BBs, cause its twice as easy to hit something. - and yes... it has only got one heavy slot - which is 360 degrees though
it is not ubernerft...
*cough* Rear firing arcs on two of those. *cough*
With its design the Osiris needs to be either dedicated to anti cap (with 1 or 2 Flaks for Nova Defense) or dedicated to anti snub (With primarily Solaris and maybe a mortar)
' Wrote:there were ppl who stated the opposite. - that its too powerful for such a small ship - with 5 medium turrets - it has some good sustained damage ( heavy BBs have 4 ) ... it has less light slots - but ... lets be honest - it doesn t need as many as the large BBs, cause its twice as easy to hit something. - and yes... it has only got one heavy slot - which is 360 degrees though
it is not ubernerft...
Ok lets ask something else- in what is good Osiris now?
7 mill core cannot support good anti cap weapons, adding the only one heavy slot- you cannot use any good anti cap guns- you are weak vs caps
Having weak hull and same amount of light slots like the other BSs that have better hull and more bots- you are weak vs snubs
Nerfing corsair secondary turrets from 4 refire to 3.3 make it useless vs GBs too.
Nerfed reverse speed....
Balancing the only one light BS like medium BS is just wrong. You could simply add more light slots and it will be snub killer and gb killer- having 5 medium slots when you have no support of good core or hull or heavy weapons is a joke- they are useless.
If you want to balance it like medium BS give to it 1 more heavy slot 8 mill energy and more hull/bots.
If you want to balance it like light BS make it more useful vs Snubs and GBs.
It is not useless it is mega useless.
(10-09-2013, 10:51 AM)Knjaz Wrote: Official faction players that are often accused of elitism, never deploy them and have those weird, immersion killing "fair fight/dueling" suicidal hobbies. (yes, i've seen enough of those lolduels, where house military with overwhelming force on the field willingly loses a pilot in a duel. ffs.)
' Wrote:It is, but since all Corsair stuff was nerfed we'll just deal with it and like a good man said "we were too awesome with that what we had, now we will be just more awesome with more ****ty equipment..."
Stop spreading disinformation Vito:D
Osiris now works as a kiting/support battleship that keeps distance. You can load it full of anti fighter or long range anti bs weapons, keep it near legates for cover and it will deal damage. What it is not is a swiss army knife like it used to be, where massing 3+ osirises meant absolute victory for any corsair force unless faced with even greater battleship spam from the enemy - something which only outcasts could do, but then somehow still always failed when facing osiris/legate wall. Now osiris is on par with other light battleships. The reverse thrust is a debatable thing, but it's by far the single one.
Nothing else from the Corsair arsenal got nerfed, and arguably the Corsair gunboat is buffed due to turret steering.
Osiris now works as a kiting/support battleship that keeps distance. You can load it full of anti fighter or long range anti bs weapons, keep it near legates for cover and it will deal damage. What it is not is a swiss army knife like it used to be, where massing 3+ osirises meant absolute victory for any corsair force unless faced with even greater battleship spam from the enemy - something which only outcasts could do, but then somehow still always failed when facing osiris/legate wall. Now osiris is on par with other light battleships. The reverse thrust is a debatable thing, but it's by far the single one.
Nothing else from the Corsair arsenal got nerfed, and arguably the Corsair gunboat is buffed due to turret steering.
The Salamancas got nefred, the Tizonas got nerfed, the Coladas got nerfed, the Loberas got nerfed, the Rapiers got nerfed, the Borrocos got nerfed, the corsair BS primaries got nerfed, the Osiris was made useless.
But, like I said, we'll just deal with it like we always did. I'm done asking for justice since it seems nobody really cares about Corsairs and their problems
' Wrote:The Salamancas got nefred, the Tizonas got nerfed, the Coladas got nerfed, the Loberas got nerfed, the Rapiers got nerfed, the Borrocos got nerfed, the corsair BS primaries got nerfed, the Osiris was made useless.
But, like I said, we'll just deal with it like we always did. I'm done asking for justice since it seems nobody really cares about Corsairs and their problems
Well the BS primaries were changed because of the overall turret rebalance, but so did every other BS primary because of the much higher damage, and the Corsair BS turret damage was increased about 3x. The Colada looks like it got a nerf, but the truth is that as Mjolnir explained in the pulse gun thread, all pulse guns were equalised in terms of damage to shields, rather than doing 100% to positron, 80% to graviton and so on -- so there wasn't any actual nerf to pulse guns against people who fly graviton, and this will just encourage people to mount other shields. Osiris is hardly useless, it's just not an OP ship like it used to be and it's more on par with its size, it should be used as a support ship not swiss army knife pwnship. The Salamanca received no nerfs.
So I wonder where you get information that everything Corsair got nerfed from because it just looks like jumping to unreal conclusions to me...
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