ships drifting too much

[Ursus]

If you don't like it don't F1 in space.

Bravo sir, that's exactly what I'm doing, avoiding fields that require F1 in space

Dev's shouldn't change something because you're too lazy to find the nearest base.

The +50k drift is new in update 6. Do you even have a miner?

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[xiphos]

Did you even read the posts here in your own thread? Post 8, 14, 16 are really interessting. They give you a little insight of why a near re-entry point after an intentional F1 is not desirable. Why do you create threads like this when you don`t accept valid points anyways?


And before you ask. Yes i have a miner.

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[Ursus]

Did you even read the posts here in your own thread? Post 8, 14, 16 are really interessting. They give you a little insight of why a near re-entry point after an intentional F1 is not desirable. Why do you create threads like this when you don`t accept valid points anyways?

Who said I dont accept it? Why do you make strawman arguments?

This is a new change. I'm giving my feedback on it. My opinion is that it will make some mining fields get used quite a bit less, since it increases the cost of using those fields with no discernable improvement to the reward side of the equation. For example: There is nowhwere in Humboldt for a DSE mining ship to dock. The neighboring systems are Kansas and Puerto Rico, so nowhere to dock in either of those either (not in RP anyway). The nearest docking point is Freeport 4 in Magellan. If you are a DSE miner in Humboldt, the only legitimate option is f1 in space. This change increases the cost of that forced decision significantly. <--feedback

You dont need to agree, that's fine, thank you for contributing. No need to get hormonally active.

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[xiphos]

Who said I dont accept it? Why do you make strawman arguments?

This is a new change. I'm giving my feedback on it. My opinion is that it will make some mining fields get used quite a bit less, since it increases the cost of using those fields with no discernable improvement to the reward side of the equation. For example: There is nowhwere in Humboldt for a DSE mining ship to dock. The neighboring systems are Kansas and Puerto Rico, so nowhere to dock in either of those either (not in RP anyway). The nearest docking point is Freeport 4 in Magellan. If you are a DSE miner in Humboldt, the only legitimate option is f1 in space. This change increases the cost of that forced decision significantly. <--feedback

You dont need to agree, that's fine, thank you for contributing. No need to get hormonally active.

Yes. The last line was really mature. If you want it that way. Fine by me. Go on.

And no, i don`t agree with you. And your Feedback is noted. But still, there is no need need to F1. At all. Why should we encourage intentional F1 just becuase syou think that Humboldt is too far away from the next base?

Why should we encourage Pirates to log off in a field and then log in near your miner in the field? Read post 16 and post 8 again.

You can of course have your own opinion and you can of course give feedback like anyone else.

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[Ursus]

Why should we encourage Pirates to log off in a field and then log in near your miner in the field?

My experience is that this is a non-issue. It was not an issue with drift was in the ~30-40k range since there was enough randomness to prevent the ships from logging in on top of each other. It would be an issue if there was no drift at all, but that has not been suggested by me or anyone else here. My suggestion is take it back to 30-40k so that the marginal fields are still viable. +50k respawn distance makes many of the marginal fields non-viable, since the increased travel time destroys whatever marginal value they had.

Miner piracy in general, you generally lose no matter what. If they get within F9 scanning distance you are not likely to get your hegemon out of the asteroid field in time anyway. You can beat a lone bomber with a hegemon, everything else scanner range is death.

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[xiphos]

My experience is that this is a non-issue. It was not an issue with drift was in the ~30-40k range since there was enough randomness to prevent the ships from logging in on top of each other. It would be an issue if there was no drift at all, but that has not been suggested by me or anyone else here. My suggestion is take it back to 30-40k so that the marginal fields are still useful. +50k makes marginal fields less usable.

Miner piracy in general, you generally lose no matter what. If they get within F9 scanning distance you are not likely to get your hegemon out of the asteroid field in time anyway. You can beat a lone bomber with a hegemon, everything else scanner range is death.

Hm. Ok. Let me think about this one for a while.

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[Echo 7-7]

Bravo sir, that's exactly what I'm doing, avoiding fields that require F1 in space
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> Complains about drifting.
> Says he already avoids drifting.

What?

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[SnakThree]

I think it is fine as it is. Either one spends time going to station or flying back from random position in relatively close vicinity.

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[Govedo13]

50k is pure timewaster 30k is more then enough- there is no difference between 30k and 50k in the result of any actions-piracy/mining etc. So 50k is non-sense time waster.

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[Tapeworms]

You know, Mr. Dog chewing on a grenade (love the avatar btw) I see you post on here quite often and usually they're really good on-point posts, but seriously, complaining about drift putting you too far off and you have to cruise for literally 2 minutes back to the mine field, all because there isn't a nearby base.....really? isn't your intellect better suited to whether or not Gargamel is going to be able to dominate all the non-bret bases in Bretonia?;)

But seriously just imo here but.. BUILD A BASE? if the closest NPC base is really that far off in another system then i'm sure youll have no trouble finding others to help you build it (assuming you need help)

Crap, for enough credits I'll even help on my FailBarge mebee

Personally, I love the drift, I find it very useful in certain situations, for example its the only way I broke out of the Bastille prison's minefield! (now if only there were jumpgates out of the system..)

Anyways, don't mean to flame ya too much, just my $0.02 that your $0.02 is better spent elsewhere and that you should just build a base:)