@ Hone: I agree on the point that gaians wouldn't buy tech from the major corps, but that's why I mentioned getting the tech from the zoners at the beginning of the thread. There are multiple examples over the years inrp of casually close ties between the TAZ & NLH...& while RL time and circumstance has lessened those ties, I see no reason why that casual relationship can't be revisited & renew a reciprocal relationship between the Gaians & Zoners through the Discordians. I'll talk to Doc this week & see what he thinks & what can be done, because I don't believe synth foods can have a complete stranglehold on biodomes any more than I think Ford or Chevy can have a complete stranglehold on the wheel.
I am curious though why you would think the gaians would be such bunglers. if there's something written somewhere in game that leads you to believe that, please point me to it & I'll make more of an effort to lobby things like that out.
@Psymple: Being a space game, if you think Gaians shouldn't have stations at all, then in other words is it safe to say you think Gaians shouldn't be in the game at all? It's clear that you have a deep misunderstanding of what gaians are
Actually, based on the surprising resistance in here to what really should be considered a no-brainer, I think it would be a good idea for me to make a specific 'Gaian/Eco 101' thread elsewhere to clear up some very obvious misconceptions about very basic things, because like they say, 'where there are a handful, there are hundreds'
Quote:The Gaians are a terrorist faction opposed to any alteration to the natural environment of a planet, specifically those brought about through terraforming. They mainly operate in Edinburgh, in Bretonia space and the nearby Border Worlds, but some rumors tell about detected Gaians in Corsair space.
Whilst I am not saying your wrong.
Putting trees in space seems like a massive alteration to the natural enviroment of space...
Hell if you ask me Bio Domes are essentially "terraforming" space...
*smiles*
Unless they only care about planets and dont give a flying muck about space or wildlife forced to be grown
in alien conditions. (in space)
And then... well... then the Gaians seem a little hypocritical to me!
' Wrote:@Psymple: Being a space game, if you think Gaians shouldn't have stations at all, then in other words is it safe to say you think Gaians shouldn't be in the game at all? It's clear that you have a deep misunderstanding of what gaians are
Actually no I was more pointing that, in my oppinion, in order to survive their ideals have changed...
If you were to take an acorn and plant it into the ground, that acorn would take root & begin to grow into a tree thanks to the symbiosis of its environment...sunlight, wind, rain, ect. If you take or make soil, and put it into a biosphere that artificially mimics a symbiotic environment and plant an acorn, it will take root and grow into a tree...Although that tree is grown in an artificial environment, by no stretch of the imagination does that make it an artificial tree. It seems the massive flaw in your logic about gaians is an overly simplistic view of ecology & how it translates to a space fairing civilization.
Biodomes are not 'terraforming' they are controlled internal environments that mimic a natural one as much as possible that allow for natural life cycles...while terraforming is specifically an artificial change and acceleration of evolution to an entire planetary body in order to support (Human) life that would either not naturally evolve to support human life or simply take millions of years to get to that point.
Think for a moment about genetically modified foods...back in the late 90's or so when scientists decoded DNA to the point of being able to modify it, they added things to crops that have no natural business being there. While their heart was in the right place thinking they can improve taste, longevity, decrease faminine, ect, their arrogance lies in the fact that they introduced human error into a natural system they still don't fully understand & never will. In their arrogance, they tried to fix something that was never broken.
If you take the time to better understand present day ecologist mindsets & green technologies, I can almost guarantee the Gaians will seem less hypocritical to you than they do right now
Pretty sure Gaians have an issue with people using Gaian wildlife to terraform every planet in sirius.
Just wait till they start exporting Gaian Wildlife in order to build "Bio-Dome" modules on player bases.
gaians building biodomes: - sure why not, its just a large dome filled with dirt and air to grow stuff
what we might need to differentiate is that a biodome made by synthfood and sold to zoners for example is not your "garden like" soil. it is a highly industrialized dome for maximized harvest. - its not your nostalgic rows of corn, tomatoes and beans. - its probably as similar to a garden, as a frozen sleeping facility is similar to a kids dormitory in a classic english boarding school.
so sure, gaians can do "nature in domes" - and they d probably try to. such facilities are not providing much food, air or anything ... but act as recreation areas for example
i doubt they d employ high tech nanotech to maximize their harvest though - that doesn t sound right.
in terms of gameplay - it doesn t quite matter - they can of course build a PoB with biodomes and RP them to be gardens.
' Wrote:Seems you're desperate enough to get Sairs overcoming their starvation weakness, but pls, Gaians are as qualified as Unioners to build said domes.
Yeah Fran , thanks.
Anyway, Sairs are never gonna overcome their starvation weakness.
Not unless they move away from Crete or wipe out 80% of their population.
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