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Any lawful's left in Disco?
Offline Lump Lorry
11-30-2009, 02:42 PM,
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' Wrote:The Mc Donalds Company is waiting for the 98% of unlawfuls in Disco, but it will avoid the 0,12517256 % remaining because they use battleships full of primaries.

:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:...

Lump Lorry
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(Reunion 4.85 chars)
-- The new Lorry Family --
Lump Lorry free trader. chief of the Lorrys | [RM] Hg. M(anfred) Von Lorryhofen Rheinwer's Obergefreiter
[HF] Cesare Lorry Hellfire Legion member | Kuger - Jack "Deep" Hole Kruger Minerals worker

(Former chars on Disco 4.82) -- The old Lorry Family --
Lump Lorry freelancer trader. chief of the Lorrys | Manta Lorry freelancer pilot | [HF] Cesare Lorry
fighter pilot, HF member | sso|Ace Wolverine Lorry bounty hunter | [RM] M(anfred) Von Lorryhofen
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Offline ryoken
11-30-2009, 06:47 PM,
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1 thing i keep hearing is hire an escort. Problen is, no escort's when i am on. Last night for example. 3 outcast's/2 junker's(yes they were perating)/2 blood dragon's(no idea why they should be there) and 1 LVL 35 LPi.(he just ran away)
Not 1 escort in sight. Oh this was in PENN.

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Offline Trim
11-30-2009, 06:53 PM,
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Contact Oliver.Goodman if you ever see him, i'll even escort for for only 10% of your profits.
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Offline Lump Lorry
11-30-2009, 06:55 PM,
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' Wrote:1 thing i keep hearing is hire an escort. Problen is, no escort's when i am on. Last night for example. 3 outcast's/2 junker's(yes they were perating)/2 blood dragon's(no idea why they should be there) and 1 LVL 35 LPi.(he just ran away)
Not 1 escort in sight. Oh this was in PENN.

Ya, this is a problem... there is a lack of people available to act as an escort. The impression I got, maybe I'm wrong, is that at the moment the balance of power is really shifted in favor of pirates. So, utill something will be changed, what we will see is... more and more pirates, less and less traders... not talking about escorts whose work is less remunerative than traiding or pirating.

Lump Lorry
on behalf of the Lorry Family
_______________________________________________________________________________
Kruger's bar und Mensa on Essen Station
(Reunion 4.85 chars)
-- The new Lorry Family --
Lump Lorry free trader. chief of the Lorrys | [RM] Hg. M(anfred) Von Lorryhofen Rheinwer's Obergefreiter
[HF] Cesare Lorry Hellfire Legion member | Kuger - Jack "Deep" Hole Kruger Minerals worker

(Former chars on Disco 4.82) -- The old Lorry Family --
Lump Lorry freelancer trader. chief of the Lorrys | Manta Lorry freelancer pilot | [HF] Cesare Lorry
fighter pilot, HF member | sso|Ace Wolverine Lorry bounty hunter | [RM] M(anfred) Von Lorryhofen
Rheinland Military pilot | [AEGIS] GB 303 Ticonderoga AEGIS artificial intelligence gunboat | (secret
member) In charge of keeping the family's secrets
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Offline jammi
11-30-2009, 07:01 PM,
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' Wrote:the solutiom is to hire escorts, or use other routes.
' Wrote:1 thing i keep hearing is hire an escort. Problen is, no escort's when i am on. Last night for example. 3 outcast's/2 junker's(yes they were perating)/2 blood dragon's(no idea why they should be there) and 1 LVL 35 LPi.(he just ran away)
Not 1 escort in sight. Oh this was in PENN.
I made a Kusari escort yesterday. I spent the majority of today in Penn and New York offering to escort people. I was flat-out ignored by all of them, save two. One of which was a miner I brought in from Kusari, the other was going from NY to Penn.

Other than that, I got two jobs. Both were working with the Navy to assist against Outcast and Hacker gunboat swarms. Says a lot really...

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NixOlympica
11-30-2009, 07:26 PM,
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' Wrote:Come on... it's not about fighters, gunships or whatever ship... it's about roleplaying. There are RP-reasonalble places to pirate, like in the middle of tradelane using trade lane disruptors and places that are not reasonable, like nearby a fleet of liberty capships.

Anyway... go and wote the poll! Are lawfull NPCs far too weak?

You say RP but I want that from traders too. 90 % of traders can't RP. If you are in freighter that doesn't mean you don't need to RP.
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Offline cmfalconer
11-30-2009, 07:41 PM, (This post was last modified: 11-30-2009, 07:49 PM by cmfalconer.)
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http://discoverygc.com/forums/index.php?sh...c=53521&hl=

This right here is going to be a HUGE help with the "pirate" that will take your ore and sell it on the lawful bases. Miner ID'd transports (Pirate transports at that) won't be able to take your ore and sell it on the lawful bases.

What does this mean? The rise of the Freelancer-tagged, pirate id'd transport/gunship/bomber. These will then be the new whinge-fest du jour, and then the Pirate ID will be saddled with a restriction that it can't be used in conjunction with the Freelancer Tag. Then will be the rise (if it's not already there) of the untagged Pirate ID'd ship.

The good thing about these guys is that they have a Pirate ID. Escorts and scouts will know that they are PIRATES, and can act accordingly. The bad thing is that these "pirates" will still be able to dock on lawful bases to sell the ore.

Solution? Why, give unlawfuls a place to sell ore. This should be done at a smaller rate than lawfuls, but still a decent enough price to encourage unlawfuls to tag/id themselves accordingly and RP a pirate with pirate affiliations. Junker bases and/or Freeports would be great for this sort of thing.

Personally, the Grand Cooperative Mining Experiment has failed, and failed because of basic human greed. The over-inflated prices of ore has caused a very large inflationary trend in regular pirate behavior. A plain trader is now being asked for 5-10mil in a pirating scenario because it's expected. Wasn't there a long tryst when 4.85 first came out about how money is worth more? Well, with the GCME, the value of a credit has plummeted for miners, and pirates, and the rest of us are paying the price.

I'd like to see ore sell prices dropped to about 1/2 of what they currently are at the main dropoff points (BURN THE WITCH! HERETIC!). Bring online sell points to all Zoner Freeports and all Junker Bases in line with distance from main mining area, and let the vultures kill each other.

Edit: A buff in general lawful NPC strength isn't needed, nor would it do any good. With the current technology on the server, when server load gets to a certain point, it starts turning off NPCs. at a certain point, there are no NPCs to be found. What then?

A lot of the current system is broken. Quick name-changes and the rep-ninja, while both fantastically useful unto themselves, has utterly destroyed anything other than blanket bounties, which some people are calling for the eradication of. Most BHG have been relegated to the Omicrons because of fear of a sanction for killing someone w/o a bounty, even when completely within their ID limitations.

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Offline Rudo
11-30-2009, 07:48 PM,
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' Wrote:Come play Eve and leave these kids to their lulz.

Because there are no gankers and griefers in the parts of EVE that are worth anything.

Or are you one of those day in and day out empire mission grinders?

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Offline CzeReptile
11-30-2009, 07:52 PM,
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People must be pushed out of Liberty. Thats all. And escort thing - if you hire VHF escort, any pirate will kill trader before escort can do something to him. Thats awful for lawful.

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Offline jxie93
11-30-2009, 07:55 PM,
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' Wrote:You say RP but I want that from traders too. 90 % of traders can't RP. If you are in freighter that doesn't mean you don't need to RP.

90% ? Your figures are, as I tell you, hugely incorrect. I know many great RP'ers from most major Liberty trading factions.

Seems to me that you're just an arrogant, bitchy and angry pirate who perhaps met a few powertraders. Your RP may be no better than what I'd expect from an average pirate.

Who are you to judge the RP standards of every trader on the server? Huh?

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