New bomber torp weapon

[farmerman]

I think a shieldbusting torpedo would work better, or at least with less complaints. And more explosions.

It would need to have a really big radius to make sure to blast all those caps good. I think calling it the Immolation Torpedo would fit with the Inferno name style.

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[ryeguy146]

I think a shieldbusting torpedo would work better, or at least with less complaints. And more explosions.

Now THAT doesn't sound bad. But I like bombers just fine as they are. I don't want my SNAC nurfed so that someone gets an energy shield buster.

[mjolnir]

I think a shieldbusting torpedo would work better, or at least with less complaints. And more explosions.

It would need to have a really big radius to make sure to blast all those caps good. I think calling it the Immolation Torpedo would fit with the Inferno name style.

As I already mentioned Nova torp will do that in the future.

But not by using huge blast radius but due to actually fixing the capship shields.

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[Prysin]

As I already mentioned Nova torp will do that in the future.

But not by using huge blast radius but due to actually fixing the capship shields.

YUS, finally we can use dual nova without looking like idiots

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[Elsdragon]

Is anyone aware of the balance challenge an EMP SNAC would cause, Specifically in a dual torp Bomber?
As in, one shot two shot, red ship dead ship?

Just a thought.

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[Supercow]

I lulz'd

Maybe you can learn to use your strafe keys instead of running at a bomber head on:)

You coulda read or quoted all I said, but I guess you like playing pretend better.

Dodging and shieldrunning when your shields are down is the easiest thing in the world.

You might have noticed that I asked for a snac nerf in the case of a EMP weapon being implemented.

Not like you want to understand but I'll explain it more slowly for you anyway:

fighter attacks bomber
Fighter starts winning because he doesnt let himself get hit by snac
bomber starts whining that the fighter never jousts him when his shields are down
Fighter kills bomber.
bomber had no chance in hell.
From now on, bomber runs and whines as soon as he sees a fighter.
Bomber takes gunboat form now on.
Bomber is sad
Fighter is sad

Right now, bombers have 0 chances of beating a fighter no matter what, if the fighter knows how to avoid snac shots while his shields are down.

If a EMP was introduced and the snac nerfed at the same time, in addition to the bomber guns being sped up a bit, it could be reballanced in a way that fighter/bomber fights were again possible.

If a snac hit kills fighter 100% of the time, fighter will give the bomber 0% chance to hit him, by shieldrunning. Which gives the bomber 0% chance of winning the fight. Shieldrunning can be taught to any noob with 2 sentences.

Would be nice have the outcome of fights depend more on skill again and less on jsut what ship you fly.

[Dragonego]

Some people already proposed this, but didn't got much attention since it never had, as I remember, specific thread about it.

After removal for bombers to use fighter torpedos quite a few bombers possesing 2x torp slots plus cd were pushed aside. Forced to use only nova torpedo which in piracy and in most cases isn't that usefull. Besids bugged.

What I propse is to make energy based cannon similiar to snac, but specificly for shield breaking than hull. The stats would be of course for balance team to decide, but I have a vision of identical stats.. just lowering hull damage and increasing shield damaga 50~100 percent of original snac.

Some people might already argue me saying "oh this is just a method to get fighter torps to kill shield and snac hull" well for you I have to say:

if this thing would be sufficient you would already see people with 2x snacs pew pewing fighters around. Since hull busting snac can do just the same against the shield of the fighter as proposed shieldbreaking snac.


Bombers themselves sufferef much nerfing in equipment, and most likely are left aside whith little to no variety of the weapon layouts. This, I think would increase tactical balancing of fleet, bomber wings and so. Also would leave a person to decide, what he wants. CD, Nova torp, EMP snac or snac. For those who have additional torp slot, this would be an option for bugged nova torp.



Ideas? suggestions, what you think. As I said, this won't have any impact on fighter x bomber fights.

I was thinking about this last night, actually. But then I though about this too:

Im truly sorry to say this, but no...

Bombers are already good enough against caps. we don't need to give them any more advantages.

This would allow even the most mediocre bombers to solo a cruiser.

Edit: not to mention everyone and his goat could solo a battleship.

Really, you do need the hullbuster power of the Snac for use against caps anyway, the 50% damage reduction against shields fails in comparison to the up to 400% addition of armour to many capital ships. The SNAC is really already a good all rounder anyway. Plus everyone would just go around pwning everything bigger then a bomber using Shieldbuster SNACs and regulars SNACs. Just my opinion.

[farmerman]

As I already mentioned Nova torp will do that in the future.

But not by using huge blast radius but due to actually fixing the capship shields.

While that does sound great, I was actually thinking a fully EMP torpedo. Kind of like a Paralyzer on steroids. If the shield thing is getting tweaked, then a large radius wouldn't be a requirement, though it could make for some interesting situations.

For instance, if it had a fairly short range (compared with the nova) but a big boom (or bzzt! rather) that could easily threaten the shield of the bomber if it wasn't smart. Or strip multiple caps if they were unnecessarily clustered.

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[Elsdragon]

First, I kill fighters all the time with bombers. Try full energy cannons.
Second, Gunboats are made to kill bombers.
Third, Skill is in there, it simply require uncoventional tactics.

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[Cosmos]

I lulz'd

Maybe you can learn to use your strafe keys instead of running at a bomber head on:)

I +1 this.

I just wish all the fighter pilots realised it back in 4.84 when they had the chance.

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