It's also possible that in the early stages of the Alliance/Coalition War Washington was nuked and they shifted the capital to New York, which is what the sleeper ship peeps remember as their capital when they found a new nation.
That makes me wonder...
How many people fit on those sleeper ships?
Maybe they thought "Hey, let's start filling the ship in New York!" and then
reallized that the ship was full before they could get anyone else on there.
(On the other hand ... those ships were stationed on a moon of Jupiter, if I'm correct?)
' Wrote:It's also possible that in the early stages of the Alliance/Coalition War Washington was nuked and they shifted the capital to New York, which is what the sleeper ship peeps remember as their capital when they found a new nation.
Or they were all New Yorkers originally.
I like this idea about nuking of Washington.
' Wrote:That makes me wonder...
How many people fit on those sleeper ships?
Maybe they thought "Hey, let's start filling the ship in New York!" and then
reallized that the ship was full before they could get anyone else on there. (On the other hand ... those ships were stationed on a moon of Jupiter, if I'm correct?)
Yes. You're right. However... all that exodus idea, I mean, where every Sleeper was carrying people of it's patron nation is somehow odd to me. If Earth was occupied by Coalition, so how the hell Alliance could take civilians from their nations (USA, Great Britannia and others)?
However. As someone told: "Don't look for logical explanation in Freelancer".
' Wrote:No +1ing, please. This the serious discussion thread.
how is what i said a +1? this is not a serious thread, it has come up many times before. a gravedig/search will find various incarnations of it. however, if we could step away from the yankocentric solipicist philosophies of FL, I cannot remember anywhere finding a reference to Oxford - a city of equal merit as Cambs, and a 1000 times more influential than many other places immortalised in fl canon: did you EVER hear of the Norfolk Dictionary?
also, in default skin, i cannot read what you write if you colour your text white. is there a reason for this?
Canadians, in a burst of resurgent patriotism, pulled an 1812 redux attack, burnt the White House down, and rescued the tea... all quite dramatic...
As a result the USA moved its capital to New York, and said No Way, when it came to allowing Canadian's onto the sleeper ship, smirking all the way till they realized the Canadians had all the weed... this is also the reason why there is only synthweed in Sirius...
' Wrote:I like this idea about nuking of Washington. Yes. You're right. However... all that exodus idea, I mean, where every Sleeper was carrying people of it's patron nation is somehow odd to me. If Earth was occupied by Coalition, so how the hell Alliance could take civilians from their nations (USA, Great Britannia and others)?
However. As someone told: "Don't look for logical explanation in Freelancer".
Even if Earth was occupied, refugees probably would have escaped. In the beginning of StarLancer, it mentions that after the initial invasion, refugees from all over Sol fled to Neptune, which was the only planet under undisputed Alliance control.
Carlos Rivera: Corsair Brotherhood Pirate - Retired, shifted to Tripoli Shipyard's Research and Development engineering teams Anthony Cameron: Guild Core Bounty Hunter - Killed in Action, committed suicide after being trapped in Omicron Minor following its destruction Juan Ruiz: Outcast Ghost of Razgriz Pirate - Killed in Action, killed by the Sirius Coalition Revolutionary Army during Bretonian piracy raid Michael Winchester: Liberty Security Force Agent - Missing in Action, likely killed during Rheinland espionage mission or trapped in Rheinland Space Eric McCormick: Order Pilot - Retired, shifted to planetside training of new recruits
' Wrote:Yes. You're right. However... all that exodus idea, I mean, where every Sleeper was carrying people of it's patron nation is somehow odd to me. If Earth was occupied by Coalition, so how the hell Alliance could take civilians from their nations (USA, Great Britannia and others)?
The same way that colonists of a nation are still citizens of that nation - the Alliance had significant colonial holdings in the outer solar system by the time the ships were launched.
As for how many there were:
The above diagram demonstrates what is called a population bottleneck, i.e. an event which results in the loss of a large percentage of breeding population. As you can see, there is a minimum number of breeding pairs required for a species to recover or else it faces extinction. Based on archaeological and biological evidence anthropologists believe that (based on a past example) humans can recover from a bottleneck at around 17000 individuals or 250 breeding pairs - so each ship would have to have had at least 17 - 20,000 individuals aboard.
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