I know how you feel OP, I actually was on my trader yesterday going through California and I spent all the money I had on cargo and had $245 left, and the pirates took that and then threatened to kill me 'as I had more'... It wasn't just one pirate, it was a whole squad of 8-9 made up of gunboats, bombers and fighters. So then I 'diverted' my route the next time around coming back via the more 'secretive' route but hey, guess who was waiting there?:PPirates. If there is another way to get there, be assured there are pirates there as well. Maybe not if there is only a couple of them, but the recent pirating operations in California and surrounding systems create a practical blockade. An example of the Liberty Fleet that was on at that time: 1 LNS captain.
In terms of players taking pirates>Law Enforcements its true because 80% of the time as an individual law enforcement you are outnumbered and outgunned, and unless you RP your character well most are more lured into pirating traders for money, instead of trading or doing law enforcement. Law Enforcement is tough at the best of times, its only as a 'team' of the Liberty Fleets that it can really be effective. As such was shown last night when, after the pirates were operating for a while, [LN], LPI- and LNS flooded the system and destroyed most of the pirates operating there. Not long after when alot of those involved went back to base did the system again become full of pirates.
In terms of LPI well, we are law enforcement and we do our best in policing: this includes smugglers of contraband, weapons, escorting traders, enforcing the Embargo with Rheinland, another possible embargo with Kusari, pirates and criminal entities that like to destroy civilians and the like not to mention having a semi-role as lawyers to teach people the laws and also help people with the game. That is, in essence, a very broad responsibility. The Liberty Navy as a whole are mainly interested in the destruction of criminals and their own initiatives which focus isn't on many of those duties.
Individually though, I find it wrong to say that you can't 'do anything' as an LPI Officer. I am most of the time alone without backup, it doesn't mean I can't do my duty nor does it mean I change characters because its 'too hard'. It means that when facing unsurmountable odds, instead of being cajoled and insulted to the point of wanting to suicidally 'attack', suck it up and deploy SWAT and organise and collaborate with other primary and secondary fleet to confront the pirates. Working as a squad against a squad of pirates is the only sensible solution to mass pirating. However in order for this to happen on a wider field, it requires Primary/Secondary fleets to be more cohesive which can be a challenge. If its a small amount of pirates RP'ing and individual combat is possible, however 85% of the time pirates don't RP, just PvP and moreover most pirates don't solo pirate, they go in a group with 5+ because then a lone Navy/LPI pilot can't attempt to take them on unless that pilot is suicidal.
In terms of people wanting to be Law Enforcement, in particular police, I agree, there is only the incentive of justice and making a peaceful Liberty, Roleplay as an LPI officer as well as working in an awesome team, but besides that there is little ingame incentive (what most people base their game experiences on). Incentive to be a pirate = Pirating goods and money from others, filling your coffers and being an outlaw, pvp, etc. Incentive to be a trader = Money, RP, exploration. Incentive to be Navy = PvP, battles, war, flying capitals, etc. Hence, until there is an ingame incentive police won't have that numerical presence that is needed.
However doing something that would improve the presence of Police would make all the pirates scream "Foul" now wouldn't they; like when Police factions got Tlagsnet? Tlagsnet or Police Radar and such hasn't given this incentive, only a policing power for which a.) requires somebody to know how to use it and b.) practice how to intercept certain suspects with it. Interception thus requires knowledge of criminal practice and other things that only come with experience.
I would like to see a permanent presence of Liberty Fleet in California to stabilise it for trade and commerce, however there needs to be an organised and cohesive effort to do so from all the arms of Liberty Fleet and other lawfuls so as the system is always secure. I think there is an emphasis on California as of late, but I believe it should be a focus.
Honestly, i think the problem is that the class of pirates choking the server are all jerks - my friend's power-trader char keeps having the same problem as you OP.
Im a pirate, but im actually pretty nice to people - and i dont blow any traders up unless they are jerks to me - honestly, my guiding star is great role play - i take the server rules to heart, and i remember that the trader im harassing is another player, and i try and make it fun for him - my friends i pirate with are the same way.
so come into kusari space op, we'll make it fun for you :P
' Wrote:I can assure you that never getting pirated makes trading boring as hell. But if you are still dead set on never getting pirated make a Junker.
I have 5 Junkers,and they get pirated almost as much as other trade ships.
' Wrote:Unfortunately, people don't have tags, so they can't shoot unlawfuls :cool:
Huh? Anyone,and everyone shoots pirates,and well.. everyone else to. This has become Discovery 1 line PvP server.
' Wrote:The main thing that bugs me is, if I was to turn up in NY in cruiser it would be 'WTF? Corsair in da house!' over the system, but if an Outcast shows up everyone is like 'Meh, yet another Outcast'.
Thats because NY is part of Outcast ZOI. It is NOT! Corsair ZOI
' Wrote:/givecash DISCO 10,000,000
It's a fun game. If you're not having fun, play something else.
I am. Even made a post about it a week ago.:tease:
' Wrote:Honestly, i think the problem is that the class of pirates choking the server are all jerks - my friend's power-trader char keeps having the same problem as you OP.
Yup all the good ole RP pirates are gone,and now replaced with 10 mil or dai.
I miss the old days. I remember being pirated,and ordered to perform a wedding. Was fun,and pirate sent me 5mil afterwards for fun RP.
I can't remember the last time i got a pirate that didn't just want cash. If you even try to RP they start shooting you,and screaming cash now! pew pew.
plus your 235423452342352 "disco is meh posts"... You're getting annoying. Why are you still here anyway?
Disco fine and thanks to Cannon and the dev team its getting better with every update.
On-topic:
There aren't too many pirates, but there are too many cheap traders. Hire an escort and you wont get pirated 32523452 times a day. Trading is more than Shift+W and F3.
If you wanna cry to someone cry to the local law enforces, that's why we have a Communication Channel sub-forum. Every time you get pirated make a report so the police factions know what's going on around them.
Or this:
' Wrote:Join the the Navy, do your part to pew dem pirates and balance the server population.
' Wrote:*snip*
Thats because NY is part of Outcast ZOI. It is NOT! Corsair ZOI
*snip*
Wait, what?
NY is part of Outcast ZOI?
Please tell me why NY is part of Outcast ZOI, really, I want to know.
It's not that far for Corsairs to come, about the same distance as Outcasts really.
Both Outcasts and Corsairs have 'hard to get' commodities that sell extremely well on Manhatten.
I'll go and look that up for my own edumacation*.
*yes, I know, I spelled it wrong on purpose.
EDIT: well, had a look around and couldn't find anything that clearly defines the Outcast ZOI.
On the other hand, THIS thread has the 'rules' the various factions are supposed to follow.
Having looked at the Outcast rules, as far as being in liberty is concerned, they don't have a problem with it.
However, it also states that;
Quote:With the Liberty system being our primary system to smuggle & sell our Cardamine products, it is in the best interest of the people of the Outcast Commonwealth, and it's economy, to use stealthier tactics when entering Liberty or New York.
Therefore, No capitol class ship ( Destroyer class or larger) may enter Liberty System with out written consent of the Council of Ministers.
Of course there ARE exceptions to the rule.
To balance that statement, in the Corsair section of the rules, there is this statement;
Quote:16) Warship captains must not take their ship outside core Corsair territory* unless;
* They are accompanied by a balanced fleet, with at least as many fighters and bombers as there are warships. ......or....
* Their operation has received the approval of a Council Elder or one of their deputies. *Here, "core corsair territory" refers to the regions of Omicron Gamma, Omicron Theta, Omicron Eta (south of minefield), Omicron Kappa, Omicron Delta, Omicron 91, Omicron 93, Omicron 94, Omicron 96, Omega 41 and Omega 5.
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