Zoner No Fire Zones Update

[Jeremy Hunter]

By me and if someone wants it I'll let it go. I can't spend the time role playing it that I would like. Between OSI, GMS, and real life. :mellow:

Ok, once Bethlehem is taken over by Synth, I'll take it.

Oh, and please add Bethlehem to the Zoner plicies list for the moment. Elyssa Knight perfers people have a vague,idea of who admins,Beth then no idea.



Always reread five times when typing on a touchscreen phone at midnight...

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May you ever walk in the Light, Shizune.

[Lunaphase]

Honestly this seems more just an act of lazyness. Abandoning long-set RP just becuase it doesent suit you to deal with it...

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[Jeryl]

What's the diff between NFZ and non-NFZ areas now?If you shoot Zoners in NFZ,you will get FR5'd.If you do so outside of it,you will still get FR5'd, no?
Btw,engaging Zoners.

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Stop it.Seriously,stop whining.Stop Q_Qing and stop trolling.Stop exaggerating things which are minor,stop whining about stuff which happens every time the blue moon appears.Stop Q_Qing because people do not comply to your wishes.This is not your personal universe where you can lord everyone around and judge people using your emotions.Think logically.Think.Just think.
I'm gone.Goodbye.

[Kharon]

Freeports are and always will remain free. That is, anyone is free to use them so long as they respect Zoner law. Zoner law now merely means you don't shoot us.

Yes, we all got that inbetween or even from start post. And now you want to play the weapondealer that gets caught by the enemy of your contractor and you want to tell him your all neutral because he can buy some guns aswell?

I guess ignoring the fact that lawful factions have just as much right within a NFZ as unlawful factions do is part of trying to prove your point; because if you don't ignore it your point is moot.

You miss the central point here! With your Base area sovereignty comes the responsibility you now think you can get get rid of with some "privat" rulechanges. Now i already had some discussions about FL has or doesnt have to be a bit "realistic" but your zoners setup now looks simply surreal.

You saw what happend to the IMG-Base in Omega 7 i belive.

Do you realy think that can never happen to a Zoner base just because you have a godgiven Patent on "neutrality", nomatter how it affects sourounding sector sovereign`s? Did not IMG also declare "neutrality" towards Rheinland? Do you realy think Liberty AND Rheinland accept it if you make Bering YOUR new "neutral" Pirate Sector? Think twice about your artificial splitup of YOUR sovereignty and responsibility.

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[Jinx]

to sum up the reasons for the decisions made...


... the player behaviour and respect for zoner laws ( not just in-RP but also ooc respect ) and the WILLINGNESS to apply the consequences to ONESELF VOLUNTARILY have led to the decisions.


only last year we had so many complaints of people who only consider things from their very own unilateral point of view with an utmost disrespect for interactive roleplay that something had to be done.

the new NFZ are based on the principles of what is really important for zoners... and that means - zoners take no sides BUT their own. and while you are in their space, they are king, queen and the allmighty in one person... so you either submit or you bring bigger guns. ( which has happened countlessly in the past, too )

at least the concept is easy enough for everyone to understand now




summed up in one short sentence:

*** you threaten zoners or zoner property, you risk becoming a persona non grata to zoners with ALL its consequences ***

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[Friday]

I shall be interested to see with how much vigour the Zoners enforce this new policy.

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[Jose Benitez]

I shall be interested to see with how much vigour the Zoners enforce this new policy.

I think to be fair to the Zoners this is as much about everyone else being prepared to accept this policy as it is about them enforcing it.

A goodly amount of the issue surrounding the FP's came about because the Zoners were being perceived to be more "neutral" to some than others. Whether they were or not is something that I suspect we do not want to get into here as it has been done to death both literally and figuratively, in and out of game.

I suspect that they will enforce this idea with enthusiasm on the basis that it is little more than "if you shoot at me, I will shoot back" - although I appreciate that there are some regional variations. Personally I tend to shoot back at people shooting at me regardless of where I am in Sirius, so it doesn't seem unreasonable that they would do the same.

[Agmen of Eladesor]

I'm in a weird mood this morning, so I'll sum this up for people.

NFZ = No Firing (at) Zoners

Cut each others throats if you want to, but PLEASE leave us alone. We're neutral, don't you know?

:P
Serious time:

Actually, anyone that pirates a Zoner and doesn't intend to be permanently cut off from their bases hasn't thought through the consequences of his actions, and deserves the FR5. At the same time, the Zoners need to remember that other factions have certain role-play as well, and fanatics don't really care one way or the other about Zoner neutrality if the Zoners are preventing or interfering with what they see as their mission.

And as was said before, people do need to remember that characters =/= players. I have several characters that despise ... well, honestly, several of my OTHER characters. Makes for a fun time at the party.

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Oh god... The end of days... Agmen agreed with me.

[n00bl3t]

Honestly this seems more just an act of lazyness. Abandoning long-set RP just becuase it doesent suit you to deal with it...

You know what really seems like laziness?

Typing two sentences on a forum instead of trying to run a Freeport in-game by yourself and upholding a different policy.

But that is just my opinion.

Each Freeport can have a different policy. We have just changed default policy for any uncontrolled Zoner bases. There are currently no uncontrolled Zoner bases. So, it is not that big of a change. Want to change a station policy yourself? Harass the Freeport [A]dministrator in question.

What's the diff between NFZ and non-NFZ areas now?If you shoot Zoners in NFZ,you will get FR5'd.If you do so outside of it,you will still get FR5'd, no?
Btw,engaging Zoners.

Always been like that. However, you did not even read the first few posts.

I shall be interested to see with how much vigour the Zoners enforce this new policy.

With as much vigour was we can, or want to, at a particular point in time, and subject to internal and external change without warning or disclosure.

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Anything I say is not intended as offensive, and to try and deliberately misinterpret it as such would be an attempt at trolling via misrepresentation.

It's not a conspiracy, it's localised bias. They're not intelligent enough to form a conspiracy.

[... kur nubėgo?]

Anyway if this will be applied at full effect everything will become more peaceful.

For now so called NFZ was just a trigger for more tension rp-wise. As we know, some people take rp BS as their personal matter, but whatever, lets not take this into attention, becouse that's their own problem.

So instead of maintaining peace they were provoking war. Someone runs to freeport, here some zoner guy shows up and starts to yammer something about NFZ and interfaring with other factions politics. You know what happens then some 3rd party gets involved into a fight and says "hey guys, chill out" while trying to get between them? He gets a knock out.


Lazy or not, this is a move to help maintain peace and neutrality. Furthemore zoners faction won't be seen as some 3rd party moron who deserves a knock out for interfaring with man's buisness.

To put it in short, it requires way less effort for way better result.

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