I don't really like the second part, the whole Kusari situation is stolen by DA from the events that took place in the real Japane when the Edo era has ended up in Bakumatsu period and boshin war. Those events took place at around 1840-1880 years can't remeber well. However during those events Japan ended its isolationist foreign policy (sakoku) and transitioned from a feudal shogunate (warlords and their clans were ruling their small pieces of land) to the Meiji government with emperor, japane empire and all that jazz.
So you may notice while reading that Shogunate was actually agaist the foreign influence seeing the danger for traditions of the Japane. (Their anger was also fueled by the unequal treatyes they were forced to go for with the europian colonisators)
Anyway all the mess ended up with Boshin civil war where Tokugawa folks were defeated.
So from my pov, the part where remnants of the old shogunate regime are going fulllove with foreigns is wrong, Blood Dragons are all traditions and stuff, so i don't think they are up to allow any influence on Kusari culture by Rheinland or Liberty gaijins, or especially Bretonia once which proven themselfs to be barbarians in eyes of Kusarians by exhausing their resources and polluting their own space, especially Leeds, by toxis wastes.
Anyway, any gaijin found by the 47 in Kusari will most probably be burned 8-)
To prove the point we just have to look at the fact that Kusari is currently rulled by large trade companies and the Emperor is just a puppet in hands of Samura and Samura is a large shipper that traders **** for all Houses Kusari isn't currently in war. In .86 the Samura domination will get replaces by Kishiro domination and their puppet emperor, but since we have the lore written already, we may know that it made no difference for Dragons because it's all wrong, just one company switches with another to control the government just to have a lobby in pushing own interests.
There are a couple of problems in your example. First, the isolationism of Japan was only enacted when foreign religious leaders instigated a rebellion. Japan maintained relations with some foreign powers after that and continued to study foreign cultures and thier knowledge base.
Second, the cultural restrictions placed on the japanese society by the shogunate were not aimed at keeping foreign ideas from tainting japanese culture. They were aimed at japanese culture itself. The Shogunate had decided that such things as prostitution, theater, art, and books were luxuries that were a drain on the japanese people and therefore a threat to the purity of the shogunate. The shogunate itself continued to study foreign cultures and knowledges.
Third, one of the main reasons the last Tokugawa of the shogunate was deposed was because he was to friendly with foreigners. Japans great period of isolationism lasted roughly 20 years, from 1834 to 1853. Even during that period Japan was not fully isolated, having relations with the Dutch, Russians, and Chinese. After that the shogunate called on foreign powers to aid in the restructuring of the japanese millitary and economy. Many of the shogunate's political enemies felt that this was making the shogunate to powerful and they didn't like the shogunates interaction with foreigners, so they deposed him.
Fourth, the discovery mod is not taking place in the late 19th century. It's political climate is modeled much on that of the 19th century, but it's up to us what parts we do and do not use. There is no hardcopy on how and why the isolationism came to be, so it's up to us to decide those things and what impact they would have on our society 500 years later. Japan's iconic isolationism lasted barely 25 years. Why would it last more than 500 in our universe?
And the thing I want to mention to Curios and Maelstrom, is the the government were talking about was much closer to the opinions of the "Landfall" Kusari, relatively close to the mindsets of folks who fled sol.
Afterall, 300 years from the "Aliiance" where Japan was an allied nation of the US, Britain, Germany, France, etc, fleeing the Coalition.
*shrug* however, it can be argued that 300 years is enough time to become inbred in your foreign policy, so I dunno...
That depends on if it was a closed environment - im not hip on my early landfall lore, but it strikes me as odd that the Alliance Governments would go immediately isolationist after landfall - wouldn't there be open communication lines, supply lines, and such?
Well there was no faster than light ship available that we know of at that time.
There was no trade lane network, so no faster than light communications.
So this leaves us, as far as I can tell with normal communications.
Now the only reference I can find to the size of Sirius is in a thread made by Tenacity, I am not sure of how correct it is.
But if we take it as even a rough guide and determine the distance between New York and New London being 4,600 light years, or even if we say half that, then the recipients of the first communications between the houses are still waiting for that first message.
We have however long the trip was plus 96 years before Liberty was able to talk to their first neighbours, which was Rheinland.
Kusari's first communication with another house happened in the year 118AS when the LCC Einstein first visited New Tokyo.
This is all cute but <strike>20</strike> 200 years is a way long period of time being under isolitionist course of actions towards europe colonial governments. Shogunate had to sign the treaty with foreign government because they actually were forced to with alternative of a full scale invasion by overwhelming (in all meanings: be that a technological advatage or superior numbers) forces. Those treaties were signed by most of asian nations and that fact made them angry as hell. But yes, both sides were using the technologial more advanced stuff from europians to achieve vicory, that's not a big deal. But after the shogunate has fallen the new meiji government have focused on closing in with western cultures and had began the evropenisation of the japane. So those moves makes shogunate to be relatevely a way more isolitionistic compared to what happened next.
P.S. 200 years on isolitionism is not actually a good reference, it's better to say - japane was isolitionistic since they had a first contact with european ships.
It wasn't 200 Years. It was 20. The revolution caused by christian religious leaders happened in the early 1800's. That lead to the closed nation policy of the Shogunate.
Before that there was plenty of contact between the Shogunate and the rest of the world. The Shogunate actually used foreign forces to help it achieve primacy.
People claim they were isolationist as early as the 1600's, but if you do your research you find that isn't so. There were plenty of foreigners in the country and Japan had diplomatic relations and cultural exchanges with plenty of it's neihbors. Think about it, the christian rebellions that lead to the closed nation policy couldn't have happened without cultural exchange. Foreign endeavors were brutally regulated, but all through the 16 and 17 hundreds there were British, Spanish, Dutch, Chinese, Portuguese, and French traders and envoy's in Japan.
Finally, President Fillmore forced a treaty on the Japanese through Admiral Perry, but the Japanese knew he was coming. They knew because the Dutch told them. Even during the worst of the isolation Japan still had open relations with other countries. The treaty was forced but the Shogunate voluntarily sought out millitary advisors for restructuring thier millitary. That is what eventually lead to thier downfall.
All the above is really irrelevant, though. Kusari isn't japan of the 19th century. It is based off from the Shogunate but there are several key differences and many gaps and holes. It's up to us how we fill those gaps and how we wish to evolve the factions and history. The history of Japan gives us an example, a guide, but it's just that, a guide. We can pick and choose from it and develop the factions of Kusari however the comunity wanst to.
From this i can only say that we got a different view on the term "Isolation".
From my pov japane was isolated from foreigns for more then 200 years and in the last 20 years of it it went completely retard way and become even worst then it used to be before. Of cause Japane had a relations, doesn't mean they were not isolitionists. I'm trying to compare the situation in Japane to another countries with more freedom concerning foreigns. Meanwhile you represent the opinion which says if there were "some" foreigns in Japane then it isn't isolitinist enough, to be isolitionist completely Japane had to kick all arses off the Japane so it look like that.
Soviet Union had the isolitionist policies as well, doesn't mean soviet people and foreigns were not able to come in or out the borders, but both were restricted in movements, etc.
P.S. Yes it is our choise how to fill out the space DA was cba to fill with vanilla lore, howver I'm showing up my pov and opinion on how i see the Kusari as a member of both community and ]bd[ official faction.
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