We are PRing this situation now , or have you not noticed qwertypp7.
TCG actually just want to get on with our job of deleting Nomads and
helping Humanity, there is no need for the constant finger pointing, as
we have taken this punishment on board and see it as a challenge.
We have no intention of raiding Minor and killing you every day
best you and your fleet do the same towards us. I havent presented evidence
against anyone as there is no point, it wont change anything and proberly
make the situation worse.
I will send the video to Jihad Joe to prove our innocence once and for all.
And then the Admins can choose what to do.
As far as im concerned TCG will defend its self against
any attack from the order but we wont go looking for problems.
' Wrote:The fact that the TCGs RP was so different from the Orders is what was causing the problems. You bringing the LN situation to a head when we would prefer to keep it in a state of cold war is what started the FR5 proceedings. The killing of Order agents and direct disobeying of oders from Osbourne was what put the final nail in the coffin so to speak.
In relation to the question of Navy and Order hostilities, I have this to say...
The Order are not in a great position. They are fighting against the Nomads and at the same time are trying to hold of the Bounty Hunters Guild. The reason we have tried our hardest to keep relation with Liberty from becoming open war is because we can't handle it. They are not meant to be the enemy. They are only hostile because of circumstances beyond either factions control and so we try to keep relations with them below boiling point. We even cooperated on occasion.
The TCG (and Order indies, the TCG aren't solely to blame) going into Alaska to hunt down that battlecruiser (who was also very much in the wrong) brought a lot of Navy ships to Minor looking for revenge. Waratahs threats of "we'll gank the navy 10 to 1" certainly did not help the situation and it was that more than the act of violating Alaska that started off the FR5 proceedings. Add to that the childish name calling that came out of the TCG in the aftermath of that incident followed by the blatant ignoring of OHCs orders to stay out of Alaska and eventually the violence perpetrated by Waratah and you have a very solid case for invoking FR5 in my opinion.
TCG|was asked to assist in bringing Order pilots from the Navy and that's the reason why they went to Alaska,of course without Waratah Osie...Navy refused to give them back and challenge TCG to take them away from them which TCG did and after call from Primary-they returned to Minor...Navy come to Minor son after again...and how is that starting a war???
So much spinning the truth...and laying...
You know, I was writing for last hour walls of texts, trying to explain why I submitted FR 5 report on TCG.
And you know what, I gave up, cause it will just end by NO U posts, like most of them are in here.
I had many evidence supporting that TCG is doing against well being of whole Order and Minor.
Doing against Order RP.
I submitted those proofs as I believed they are strong enough for what I had planned to do for reasons stated above.
Admins decided they are strong enough and FR 5 was applied on TCG.
About that video evidence, Waratah, please post it here, so we all can see what you have.
You submitting to Admins means nothing, cause video is so easly to manipulate with. You could just record stuff which goes for your good, and not record what isn't good for TCG.
You have threaten before many times with evidence, and you never showed up, or if you did it turned out that your super evidence actually shows nothing, and it's just some fake propaganda with which you were trying to clear up bad acts which you made.
qwertypp7 is answering to Wizard's posts, since it seems he still can't accept this. I see no harm in qwertypp7's post trying to explain it to Wizard.
Wizard, you are just pointing out details which suits you, and keeping in dark the ones who speak against you.
Say whole thing or nothing please. That thing with LABC selling Order pilots in Minor and then you chasing it out meant nothing, as any of my evidence wasn't based on that, nor I even mentioned it in report.
So your point is invalid.
Waratah said TCG accepted this, and that you will RP it out, please do so.
It is about time you start dealing with things in RP, and not with angry and arrogant NO U posts.
' Wrote:You know, I was writing for last hour walls of texts, trying to explain why I submitted FR 5 report on TCG.
And you know what, I gave up, cause it will just end by NO U posts, like most of them are in here.
I had many evidence supporting that TCG is doing against well being of whole Order and Minor.
Doing against Order RP.
I submitted those proofs as I believed they are strong enough for what I had planned to do for reasons stated above.
Admins decided they are strong enough and FR 5 was applied on TCG.
About that video evidence, Waratah, please post it here, so we all can see what you have.
You submitting to Admins means nothing, cause video is so easly to manipulate with. You could just record stuff which goes for your good, and not record what isn't good for TCG.
You have threaten before many times with evidence, and you never showed up, or if you did it turned out that your super evidence actually shows nothing, and it's just some fake propaganda with which you were trying to clear up bad acts which you made.
qwertypp7 is answering to Wizard's posts, since it seems he still can't accept this. I see no harm in qwertypp7's post trying to explain it to Wizard.
Wizard, you are just pointing out details which suits you, and keeping in dark the ones who speak against you.
Say whole thing or nothing please. That thing with LABC selling Order pilots in Minor and then you chasing it out meant nothing, as any of my evidence wasn't based on that, nor I even mentioned it in report.
So your point is invalid.
Waratah said TCG accepted this, and that you will RP it out, please do so.
It is about time you start dealing with things in RP, and not with angry and arrogant NO U posts.
I have not once posted a NO U post. We accept this and want to move on.
You say i could just record stuff that goes good for us ..hmm isnt that what you have
done. Anyway im over all this ill post it to Jihad Joe and that will be the end of the story.
' Wrote:I have not once posted a NO U post. We accept this and want to move on.
You say i could just record stuff that goes good for us ..hmm isnt that what you have
done. Anyway im over all this ill post it to Jihad Joe and that will be the end of the story.
I wasn't talking about now only. And your members did that in this thread anyway, but nevermind.
Your evidence showed to be like that before. And it never cleared situation which was going against you, so that would be main reason for having doubts in this evidence.
I will ask Joe to show me evidence, since it is directly involves my Faction, and I have right to see it.
Edit: Also, if anyone else has something to post, just for arguing or for sake of +1, please don't do it.
You are not contributing to this, and it's matter of Order| and TCG| leaders only.
Admiral Hale asked the Order (a faction which he is at war with and seeks to destroy? Or just shoot sometimes for no particular reason? Or what?) to keep out of Alaska, so that the navy and LSF can do... what ever secret stuff they do there with nomads... and the Order high command said:
"YEss sah! We will shoot our own ships if they go there! But we are really commited to our.... uh... cause.. or what ever we think we are doing..."
And then the Cinsinatus guard said...
"Why? Isnt there some reason we are in Alaska for?"
And thne the OHC said:
"We gonna do what Hale says because he's an adm... er... admiral of a faction that is trying to destroy us and doing ultra-sneaky stuff with nomads in Alaska... one jump from NEw YOrk... and we like.. gonna do what he asks cause we care so much about what the adm... iral says, and that THC has been annoying our nomad chars too!"
And then the THC said...
"not really"
And then the OHC said:
"then pew pew pew"
And the THC said:
"NO U!!"
And then they OHC made a trial and the adm... idmiral(s) sanctioned the THC?