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Offline West
01-31-2012, 01:35 PM,
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' Wrote:Matsuda alone has some 3k population, but thats not what matters.

Just checked all GC bases.. your Guard base with 12k forced me to laugh:D anyway in total you have 18k.. and don't tell me that all 18k are pilots.

Quote: The GC receives a lot of assistance from people within the Kusarian society. Those could cause Kusari quite a lot of trouble.
erm... that much so they can appoint their empress and claim her ot be new true leader?:lol:


Quote:That scenario only works if Kusari is HEAVILY crippled, which is quite likely after a long war which they lost. A lost war would make the civilians quite unlucky which would bring more support to the radical groups.
It could happen if old government was still incharge.. but there is new "better" one... that want peace and even tried to contact those 2 radical groups(good for public support of new regime)

Quote:More support for them means more power and larger numbers. Also, in a really crippled Kusari the KNF would barely be able to defend the state, so forces would be more or less equal.
Sry but there just can't be THAT much of support to make you equal to House navy.

Even RHA in Rheinland(3rd largest pirate organisation.. with LWB, Unioners, and Bundscuh as support) understands that they don't have yet enought power to siege Dresden.. even if RM loosing war too...

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Offline Jansen
01-31-2012, 01:47 PM,
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' Wrote:Just checked all GC bases.. your Guard base with 12k forced me to laugh:D anyway in total you have 18k.. and don't tell me that all 18k are pilots.
I dont count guard bases as canon, so you can ignore those, because that is hardly important.

' Wrote:erm... that much so they can appoint their empress and claim her ot be new true leader?:lol:
People call that kind of thing propaganda, you should check that out, its fun.

' Wrote:It could happen if old government was still incharge.. but there is new "better" one... that want peace and even tried to contact those 2 radical groups(good for public support of new regime)
Sry but there just can't be THAT much of support to make you equal to House navy.
I am talking about an alternative, thats why you can find so many 'would's in my post. And I'd like to have that alternative because the current lore is not really all that great for most groups in Kusari.

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Offline farmerman
01-31-2012, 01:49 PM,
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' Wrote:Just checked all GC bases.. your Guard base with 12k forced me to laugh:D anyway in total you have 18k.. and don't tell me that all 18k are pilots.

Fun fact: Planet Junyo (owned and controlled by Samura) has a population of 30 million.

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Offline West
01-31-2012, 02:02 PM,
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' Wrote:I am talking about an alternative, thats why you can find so many 'would's in my post. And I'd like to have that alternative because the current lore is not really all that great for most groups in Kusari.

Well it could be fun.. but not with current lore.

For your scenario we would need Lore for GC and BD showing how they increased power to stand toe to toe with KNF, full loosage of KNF fleet in Taus, old government still incharge(bad public support = more stuff for other groups) + still location of Kusari bases are too good(noone of them in cloud.. except of Police bases in hokkaido.. and INRP protected from fighters Rishiri system) to capture even one and hold it without HUGE looses from BD/GC side.
It's like.. you would capture it.. okay.. but you would need 50% of your forces to defend it... and what would happen if you loose it and all your forces there? just in one blow.. you will be cut by half.

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Offline Jansen
01-31-2012, 02:12 PM,
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I was more thinking about a new government that has serious problems to keep Kusari under control. Because then a civil war setting could work well and would even make some sense.

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Offline West
01-31-2012, 02:25 PM,
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' Wrote:I was more thinking about a new government that has serious problems to keep Kusari under control. Because then a civil war setting could work well and would even make some sense.

New regime was supported by 60+ % of all population.. thus they won't be for civil war.
Rest support samura (maybe 1% thinks other.. and support others.. but in house with 4 planets even 1% is HUGE number) so those who support samura = samura control them. And I doubt samura would escalate conflict to level of civil war.. = less workers = less resources = less profits = more danger for operations and etc.

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Offline leonidos
01-31-2012, 03:08 PM,
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' Wrote:Fixed it for you.
I made the whole sum of what i have trading through kusari. You just have to use ....

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Offline Zelot
01-31-2012, 03:12 PM,
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If players in Kusari spent have as much time ingame playing as they do in this thread, there would be no activity problem. Although, looking at the activity numbers, I dont agree there is an activity problem.

Go play the game, go use the lore.

BD and GC fight the KNF, and the FA and the Hogs. FA go fight the BD and GC and KINF. Go pew, it's fun right?

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Offline Ceoran
01-31-2012, 03:14 PM,
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' Wrote:New regime was supported by 60+ % of <strike>all population</strike> of those who actually voted.. thus they won't be for civil war.

So much confusion about the new system, I doubt more than 60% did even vote.

' Wrote:And I doubt samura would escalate conflict to level of civil war.. = less workers = less resources = less profits = more danger for operations and etc.

That depends entirely on how Kishiro is going to behave.

On terms of GC/BD making territorial advances: I think it goes back to vanilla lore that these two parties rely on hit&run (or sometimes hit&die) tactics to hurt the lawfuls. No occupying bases and such. And I'm also fairly sure that the support for the GC and BD has become smaller in favour of Kishiro. There are only so much people with an anti-Samura attitude in Kusari. (Also, how did the GC ever like Kishiro more than Samura? Both are corporations led by men. The rest should mainly concern the dragons)

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