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Offline Blackvertigo1
10-26-2013, 02:56 AM,
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Lay off Gallia, they're not the threat, the Colonial Remanent Military is!

Gallia may have Liberty tech, but Nomad-infested? Errgh! There will be no progress in Discovery until I get what I want.

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Offline Makc_RU
10-26-2013, 03:31 AM,
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Kusari had a long war with Bretonians. It is perfectly normal for Kusarian people to remember it and they will for quiet a long time. This part of history can not be erased from their harts. The economy between Kusari and Gallia is flourishing, both empires getting what they want.

Exiles don't like the fact that Kusarian Empire is allied with Gallia, that is why they are EXILES. Exiles can fly to Magellan and Bretonian and Liberty Forces against Gallia. It is perfectly logical that since Kusari Empire is allied with Gallia, they are interested in upkeeping their relations with the ally.

Foreign Legion serves, also, a purpose of military exchange program for Gallic and Kusari pilots. Kusari know BAF tactics much better than Gallic pilots.

I doubt that Kusari will forget their war very soon and I am sure they will be happy to expand their reach over to Leeds and any other region that Gallia will let them. As Kusari Exiles send their pilots to the front lines to aid their allies, Kusari Empire sends their pilots to aid Gallia and to counterattack the Exiles.

I am pretty sure there are hundreds of pilots who would love to avenge the death of their loved ones, family members, etc, etc. I did not see Exiles flying with 10% nerf for some reason. Colonials went as far as New London, working with Council and BAF.

Kusari Empire feels that it has to take part in this boiling conflict and it has chosen to send some if its bravest pilots to fight on the Gallic side.

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Offline Linkus
10-26-2013, 05:20 AM,
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It'd be a bit of a political suicide for the newly founded, and extremely unstable, Republic to send Kusarian forces to shoot down Exile forces.
Kusarian fighting Kusarian is something they are pretty eager to avoid right now.





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Offline Makc_RU
10-26-2013, 05:50 AM,
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I agree, but that is very controversial issue. I did not think that it should be an all out open war, but you have to agree that there is a civil war going on. I don't think Kusari Fleet should move all out, but dispatch some troops to aid Gallia. I do not think it is politically correct for Kusari Empire just be under protection of Gallia. Instead, Kusari should trade, help their new allies to move forward, expand their reach to gain access to move lucrative routes, etc, etc.

The Gallic invasion created an empty space, sort of. I think some of Kusari presence should be noticeable. Before Kusari were invading Leeds, had their patrols there etc, etc. Now that Gallic have pushed BAF out of Leeds, Kusari forces could move in and have a base near Tau-31 gates, like an outpost of some sort.

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Offline SummerMcLovin
10-26-2013, 04:49 PM,
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(10-26-2013, 02:56 AM)Blackvertigo1 Wrote: Lay off Gallia, they're not the threat, the Colonial Remanent Military is!
*Remnant, although the correct word is Republic now. Also, don't spoil 4.90 story where the Colonial Empire starts again.

Makc, I'll start of by trying to get you to use "Kusari Republic" for the current house. The Kusari Empire was the one that invaded the Taus, then Bretonia and was finally smashed to pieces by the GRN before the (officially named) Imperial Kusari Navy formed what we know as the Exiles. The Republic was never at war with either Gallia or Bretonia and was interested in trading with both (although the latter has yet to start) to help repair the mistakes of the Empire. The Republic Government of course like cosying up with Gallia, but not everyone does. A significant proportion of the population (particularly the Kyushu side) do not like such a heavy reliance on a foreign power, especially one that gave them far greater losses than the Bretonians ever did - both in numbers and now pride. This is the powderkeg that can be relit by the return of the Exiles and start a civil war (regardless of how silly West thinks it is - which it could be - but this is Disco logic).

While you may be so sure that Kusari is happy to "lightly" join the war against Bretonia, that is your opinion as someone who has taken the side of Gallia - not the official opinion of the government. That includes the Gallic government, who are not interested in military assistance from Kusari at the moment (limiting their operations in the Taus and likely what they could build in the way of a fleet after being beaten by the GRN). However as I said above, there could be cooperation in Tau-23 and -29 against the Exiles who have slipped past the GRN invasion force through Roussillon and are between the Tau occupation and KNF forces. They do not need to go to Bretonia to fight the Exiles, since the Exiles have come to Kusari.

The Exiles actually do not have ZoI in Magellan, if you'd like to read the admin opinion from your used thread instead of one player's wishes. Same with the KNF ZoI, which does not extend into Bretonia - the admins right the IDs; they are not set by player agreements. Nothing stops you supplying GRN forces in Leeds using corp IDs though.

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Offline Blackvertigo1
10-26-2013, 05:48 PM,
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Fact: If it is not free, it is not yours.

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Offline Eduard
10-26-2013, 05:51 PM, (This post was last modified: 10-26-2013, 05:53 PM by Eduard.)
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(10-26-2013, 05:50 AM)Makc_RU Wrote: I agree, but that is very controversial issue. I did not think that it should be an all out open war, but you have to agree that there is a civil war going on. I don't think Kusari Fleet should move all out, but dispatch some troops to aid Gallia. I do not think it is politically correct for Kusari Empire just be under protection of Gallia. Instead, Kusari should trade, help their new allies to move forward, expand their reach to gain access to move lucrative routes, etc, etc.

The Gallic invasion created an empty space, sort of. I think some of Kusari presence should be noticeable. Before Kusari were invading Leeds, had their patrols there etc, etc. Now that Gallic have pushed BAF out of Leeds, Kusari forces could move in and have a base near Tau-31 gates, like an outpost of some sort.

The way I see it, the Kusari "Republic" is more like a Vassal under Gallia's sovereign.

Historically, Sovereign powers could drag their Vassal's armies with them into their own wars, because it was more profitable to have your lower grunts take the beating while you deliver the finishing blow.

However, in Disco, where The Kusari Republic is a Vassal of Gallia, I think it is a sensible scenario that Gallia didn't drag the Kusari into the war "yet" . The Kusari currently are rejoicing for the fact that they have finally finished the war and they enjoy a time of complete peace while under the new Republic. A time of peace which was kind of brought by Gallia, alongside with the flourishing trade ventures.

These variables give little reason for Kusari to rebel against Gallia.

However, if Gallia would force Kusari into Gallia's wars, Kusari may not like it and the Kusari Republic won't view Gallia as it did before and the people of Kusari will start siding more and more with the Kusari Exiles.

That is my opinion over the current status quo, and the thoughts I expressed are not factual, but centered around opinions and stuff I heard and read

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Offline Blackvertigo1
10-27-2013, 01:33 AM,
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Want more spoilers?

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Offline Kazinsal
10-27-2013, 02:03 AM,
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I'd much prefer to see relevant content in your posts instead.

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