' Wrote:It doesn't stop a player flying an LABC from "engabagugging" the smuggler and toasting 'im in about half a second. As far as this rule goes, it's all the same.
The smuggler chose to be in house space with illegal cargo, he knows what the punishment would be and still chooses to take the risk of losing it all for whatever reward. The pilot that's carrying helium or whatever and gets pirated in New York didnt do anything "wrong" except he met somebody he shouldn't have. One is deliberate choice, the other is random. They're not at all the same. The only way it would be "all the same" is if piracy was only allowed in the Omegas and Omicrons, and people had to willfully choose to go through there.
' Wrote:The smuggler chose to be in house space with illegal cargo, he knows what the punishment would be and still chooses to take the risk of losing it all for whatever reward. The pilot that's carrying helium or whatever and gets pirated in New York didnt do anything "wrong" except he met somebody he shouldn't have. One is deliberate choice, the other is random. They're not at all the same. The only way it would be "all the same" is if piracy was only allowed in the Omegas and Omicrons, and people had to willfully choose to go through there.
[font=Verdana][color=#3333FF]alright Ursus, there's a bounty on your head and I'm here to collect it
' Wrote:The smuggler chose to be in house space with illegal cargo, he knows what the punishment would be and still chooses to take the risk of losing it all for whatever reward. The pilot that's carrying helium or whatever and gets pirated in New York didnt do anything "wrong" except he met somebody he shouldn't have. One is deliberate choice, the other is random. They're not at all the same. The only way it would be "all the same" is if piracy was only allowed in the Omegas and Omicrons, and people had to willfully choose to go through there.
The trader knows what the risks are of launching out into space. That's even more true for the miner, who chooses to leave well-controlled areas and heads out to the asteroid fields.
So it's just as fair to engagabug-double mortar the trader or miner as it is to do the same to the smuggler.
' Wrote:The trader knows what the risks are of launching out into space. That's even more true for the miner, who chooses to leave well-controlled areas and heads out to the asteroid fields.
Sure, everybody accepts a certain level of risk: maybe I'll drift into a planet during a potty-break, maybe a nommie will come by and blow me out of the sky while I'm stuck in the gate queue.
"I willingly accept the risk of bringing known contraband into Liberty with a bunch of LN and LPI tagged ships in the comms" is a different thing entirely. This is why the outcomes are different, even if they are the same--one was acknowledged and embraced as likely, the rest of it (including piracy) is just random dying that affects everybody the same.
I'm sure you'll find some other string to tug on here, so I'm just going to say we'll have to agree to disagree and move on.
Pirate launches into space knowing the risk as well. If not for the pirates, military and police factions would have little to do on their own, unless there is just as many smugglers as there were pirates and even then, the numbers of lawfuls would go down due to less pewpew.
Pirates cannot demand "unreasonable" amount of money?
Why traders are allowed to be unreasonable and call backup while pirate is delivering the RP beyond what I would call perfect RP: "Give all the cash you have and I will spare you. You have only few second and while we are at it, I will be keeping your shield offline"
' Wrote:Pirate launches into space knowing the risk as well. If not for the pirates, military and police factions would have little to do on their own, unless there is just as many smugglers as there were pirates and even then, the numbers of lawfuls would go down due to less pewpew.
Pirates cannot demand "unreasonable" amount of money?
Why traders are allowed to be unreasonable and call backup while pirate is delivering the RP beyond what I would call perfect RP: "Give all the cash you have and I will spare you. You have only few second and while we are at it, I will be keeping your shield offline"
Keeping shield offline counts as an engagement. If you didn't provide sufficient RP BEFORE knocking down shields past 50%, that's a rule violation.
' Wrote:Keeping shield offline counts as an engagement. If you didn't provide sufficient RP BEFORE knocking down shields past 50%, that's a rule violation.
I know right. And left.
Plus look at how long message would be. That is enough to suffice 6+ silent cap engagements.
' Wrote:Keeping shield offline counts as an engagement. If you didn't provide sufficient RP BEFORE knocking down shields past 50%, that's a rule violation.
Wrong. I can knock sheilds out completely without a word, i cannot kill you without RP. Big diff. Same as pirating a trader. I can take trader down to 1 tick of health before i make my demand, but i cannot kill him.
' Wrote:Wrong. I can knock sheilds out completely without a word, i cannot kill you without RP. Big diff. Same as pirating a trader. I can take trader down to 1 tick of health before i make my demand, but i cannot kill him.
Actually no. You must roleplay before knocking shields out. It is written in the rules. Do read them, perhaps?
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