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question about cardamine and gallia
Offline Mímir
02-02-2012, 02:15 PM, (This post was last modified: 02-02-2012, 02:16 PM by Mímir.)
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Thanks for the help! I will have to get in touch with the +LE+ then. I plan on setting up a fund of something like 100 million credits, and then pay a certain amount of credits pr. unit of cardamine smugglers deliver to a pre-determined destination. I would have to ask the +LE+ or Gallic Junkers (if there is any real player faction there) to clear things with them first. It would just be nice to get a bit of trade rolling in Gallia and strech the reach of OC influence - let the Gallics know that they are being invaded too, through the back door:-)

Seeing that I am forced to only forum-lance for the next couple of months, this might be a fun way to still play the game, although in a very different way.

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Offline Pancakes
02-02-2012, 02:32 PM,
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Just bumping you the Council stance toward Cardimine - Blow up on sight. Stance against outcasts - blow up on sight.

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Offline Mímir
02-02-2012, 02:35 PM,
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' Wrote:Just bumping you the Council stance toward Cardimine - Blow up on sight. Stance against outcasts - blow up on sight.

:lol:No surprises there, it is Gallia afterall. Just too bad that noone seems interested in using so called unlawfuls in more creative ways, like the US used the Sicilian Mafia in WWII. Never gonna happen in Disco.

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Offline Pinko
02-02-2012, 03:08 PM,
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' Wrote::lol:No surprises there, it is Gallia afterall. Just too bad that noone seems interested in using so called unlawfuls in more creative ways, like the US used the Sicilian Mafia in WWII. Never gonna happen in Disco.

LaBrise already work with the Kusarian government and are attempting to get into Liberty, all while preserving a civilian status in Rheinland. Working with the Outcasts would be against the ethics and morales of a Corse, though. They like to think of themselves as a bunch of purists.

I want to get off Mr. Igiss' wild ride.
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Offline Pancakes
02-02-2012, 03:11 PM,
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' Wrote::lol:No surprises there, it is Gallia afterall. Just too bad that noone seems interested in using so called unlawfuls in more creative ways, like the US used the Sicilian Mafia in WWII. Never gonna happen in Disco.

Both GRN and Council want to protect Gallia's civilians, though both have "special" occasions when they are willing to harm civilians if it serves them. On the Council side - Maquis, The GRN side - Royals who execute people that stand in their way, but doing nothing illegal.

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Offline Mímir
02-02-2012, 03:52 PM,
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Yeah I understand, and it is fair enough and it builds on a lot of RP preceding the situation we are in now. I just feel sometimes the "unlawful" factions are left out of diplomacy, due to some player's seeing everything as black and white, instead of accepting grey zones, such as accepting an OC presence in return for OC support to fight the overwhelming GRN force (aren't the Council supposed to be on the run and totally desperate?) - in my view survival of one's faction and primary cause would take precedence over allowing a bit of drugs on the streets, especially seeing that is only the weak-willed lower-class uneducated rabble that would do drugs anyways.

Compared to the King's tyranny and its effect on every single Gallic person, a bit of drugs for the weak-willed segment of the population would seem the lesser of two evils. It just sometimes feels like Gallia is shut around itself, even with borders being more open in 4.86. No real incentive or will to form alliances, other than "the usual business" (IMG who always do a damn fine job of diplomacy and other strict lawfuls - even though they adhere to Sirian laws and not necessarily Gallian, and might in fact pose a bigger problem to Gallia's efforts, although "green/white on scanner"). That being said, I can't understand why GRN are fighting side-by-side the IMG, when Gallia has its own mining corporation.

If I was a bloody french admiral representing a superior force and culture, I would crush any organization able to compete with my own - I would target IMG (even if IMG offered its services) over Outcasts, seeing that IMG pose a real threat to Gallic economy and have a real diplomatic powerbase that could hinder further successes in annexing Sirius, where the conflict with the OC merely hinges on territorial disputes / "red on scanner" / minor grievances caused by random pirating outcasts / the sporadic appearance of Cardamine in Gallia.

|Kishiro are the only ones I have found so far in-game willing to discuss Tau politics with Outcasts, but that doesn't matter much anyways as Kusari is de-populated and noone really goes there, and the fact that they can't form any direct allegience with the Outcasts - in other words, there isn't much in it for us, they would just be using us to fight in the frontline in a war that is drawing closer to Kusari space. We'd be doing their dirty work / be their pawns.

All in all it's difficult for the OC to emerge into more of a "proper" house, as noone are really interested in dealing with the Outcasts in any case. Even LR and other allies have grown tired of us. It sucks because I had imagined we had quite a few things to offer the Gallic unlawfuls (and the Council itself, actually), and they could have been interesting allies to us, but that isn't the way things are going at all. Even with the backdoor open between Gallia and Maltese Space, one would think we would prove a valuable asset to everyone fightning the Crown, being able to supply "la resistance" and throwing our ships into the fight for independence. In the long run that back door into Gallia can prove one of the most vital strategic key points when the time comes for an all out GRN vs. "The world" fight, but noone seems really interested in that, Sirians and Gallics alike.

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Offline Pinko
02-02-2012, 05:52 PM,
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It doesn't help that lore-wise, the very first thing the Outcasts did to the first Council diplomats they've met was to shoot them down without asking any questions, if you ask me.

It's also NPC rumors in Gallia (stated by a Gallic Junker) that no unlawfuls wanna touch or be involved with Cardamine.

I want to get off Mr. Igiss' wild ride.
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Offline Not Espi
02-02-2012, 06:40 PM,
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' Wrote:Just bumping you the Council stance toward Cardimine - Blow <strike>up</strike> on sight. Stance against outcasts - blow up on sight.

fixed that for you.


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