Nope RP is gone to hell. just today i popped into Gamma to deliver my scrap. 12 players all lol wutting OORP chat in main, and when i tried to RP, ask permission to dock, and so on. Not 1 Corsair even answered. Just kept dueling/OORP chat / and several lets go pwn alpha/lets go pwn bunters/ lets go pwn zoners all over system. It was actually worse then NY.
Popped into Virginai and also OORP chat between 3 Official players in main.
People used to atleast "TRY" to stay in RP in main, but now?
' Wrote:The best way to improve the overall roleplay on the server is to express excellence in one's own serverside RP, consistantly and regardless of conditions. The second best way to improve overall roleplay on the server is to tutor other players, especially new players, through pairing with them in groups or inviting them into a faction.
That, a thousand times that.
However I know some on this server would take 'tutoring new players' to mean: "PM them and yell at them/threaten them until they RP" Or just simply do that without any misconception too.
Teaching new players to RP, or pming them and nicely pointing things out to them, or directing them to the forums is a good idea.
Another thing I STILL don't get that I noticed here was somebody saying the whole "Trying to RP in Liberty? lalala" thing.
Y'know it's attitudes like that that maybe drive people to avoid certain places/factions, which thusly strips more potential RP from happening.
That said, I strongly disagree that there's any problem RPing in Liberty.
Yes Liberty is where all the nubs start. But Liberty is also host to several factions with a lot of Veteran members of this community in them. A lot of people who RP quite well even.
Hell look at me, if you ever see me in game, if there's not a fight going on, all I do on my [LN] is fly around RPing or trying to get others to RP with me.
Encourage Roleplay, instead of saying LOL DON'T GO THERE. How about some of you guys ENCOURAGE people to go into different areas than usual, or try going there yourselves and start planting RP seeds. As a primarily Liberty based player I can say this:
Because of all the new players there, yes there's a lot of OORP stuff going on, but it's really pretty easy to tune out, and if you look in the right places there are plenty of people in Liberty during peak hours who are generally dedicated to the play-style namesake of this server.
EDIT: Also, I strongly disagree with OP's idea that Official factions, of all things, are behind the decrease in Roleplay on this server.
Sure there's some groups that gained Offical status and probably shouldn't have, but barring them, Official factions are generally host to some of the best Roleplayers that I know, on this server.
Also, PVP =/= RP. PVP is part of RP, but does not equal it..and I honestly hope that the people who said that here were not serious..
' Wrote:Nope RP is gone to hell. just today i popped into Gamma to deliver my scrap. 12 players all lol wutting OORP chat in main, and when i tried to RP, ask permission to dock, and so on. Not 1 Corsair even answered. Just kept dueling/OORP chat / and several lets go pwn alpha/lets go pwn bunters/ lets go pwn zoners all over system. It was actually worse then NY.
Popped into Virginai and also OORP chat between 3 Official players in main.
People used to atleast "TRY" to stay in RP in main, but now?
Ryoken, Gamma has been like that since I joined the server in 2009 and even before then.
' Wrote:A lot of factions on the server fulfill one of two roles...
A military force, partisan or otherwise...
And a corporate entity, interstellar or otherwise...
The RP of the combat forces tends to be fighting for there objective, and espousing there reasons for doing so. They have enemies with which they will fight on a constant basis, and if you are one of them, you can expect some very brief pre-combat\post-combat rp - but the real heart of the interaction is the fighting.
For the Corporate entities, the majority of there interactions will be while carrying out a task - such as moving cargo from point A to point B - whether on contract, or purely for individual profit. RP had will be while on the move, so it wont be a great deal - travel with them, and youll get a good deal of talking, drink sharing, story swapping, etc - but, as they say, time is money, and lollygaggin' about is no way to get credits earned (or contracts fulfilled)
You have some factions that dont fit this mold, and exist for purely individual reasons, like TAZ, whose members do just anything you can think of the environment.
Indie (non-faction) characters are where you get the large spikes - either in tremendous RP, or a tremendous lack of it.
RP is rich out in the game, I see it all the time - but the definitions of what IS and IS NOT RP is where the question comes. For a member of the ]bd[, RP doesnt come from sitting at a lane junction for an hour discussing politics with a Kusari Navy Pilot, though that is very possible - it is to come through each other testing there prowess against the other, and carrying the name of the slain with honor.
For a Gallic Royal Navy pilot, his rp comes with every single bolt of energy fired in the name of his King, and to know, that with each enemy slain, his people will thrive in the paradise that belongs to the strong.
I can probably go on, but the point stands - RP exists within PVP.
My advice - explore sirius, talk to everyone you meet, and if you've taken a side, don't be surprised if your shot by someone whose on the opposite.
In my rush to post here, I missed this wonderful post. I completely agree with this standpoint and think that it's the most accurate account of the current state of things, and so the above, added on to my first post here, pretty much sums up how I feel.
' Wrote:Ryoken, Gamma has been like that since I joined the server in 2009 and even before then.
Also guard systems supplement Connecticut.
I guess thats why i left my Corsair faction. And no it has not been "THAT" bad till recently.
Guard systems still need to RP, and not talk OORP. There was even a sanction for it about 6months back.
And theres your problem. Some people don't seem aware that some form of speach is required before PvP can be enacted for example. Why?
Because PvP is not RP. It is only part of it. A Xeno character for example has a lot already defined for him, simply by being a Xeno. This however still does not allow him to attack you silently on your LN vessel.
The business of communicating in words is far more important here than simply shooting or else, why do we have that rule?
The thing is that a lot of the players here now can't be bothered to explore that aspect of their characters.
Encounters shouldn't always have to end in a blue message.
Nowadays, people seem to be trying hard to use the minimum RP so that the administration can be satisifed before they can get to the PvP they desire. Shame really.
Have the same experience here. IngameRP has become some sort of luxury nowadays.
I see more RP inside the forums, than ingame.
Sad but true:
On RP-dry times I see more people on the server who believe that char-developing means getting better equipment.
When i joined a year ago i've met lots of people who did it right. People who understood that char-developing means
evolving your char's personality, point of view, opinion, morale, changing sides.
Those people are getting more and more rare.:sleep:
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