' Wrote:If you and a person are fighting and you thrust away and they follow...and you keep on thrusting and they keep on following and it get's to a point that you are getting farther and farther away. It becomes an issue of you disengaging and running from combat.
If you run from a fight then folks can use cruise to chase you down.
I would need to hear the specifics of this fight such as how far away you both were and for how long you were thrusting away from the other player to give an opinion if what I said applies.
Well ... I was running away (in cruise) and he CD'd continuously until his friend arrived. Then it was CD spam until I ran out of CMs. I was able to get at best 2k from them at any given time. But the spiky rocks in Omicron Kappa make it difficult for a large ship to navigate and get away. So once I ran out of CMs I turned to defend myself. I was able to kill off one of them because the Nomads had already taken their shields down. Then Mr Zelot here chose to jump to cruise to escape. He was not thrustering because you don't get that tell tell contrail from thrusters. He was able to get up to 3k away from me before I jumped to cruise to catch him. While in cruise he maintained a 4k distance ahead of me (not something you can do when one is thrustering and the other is in cruise). I caught up with him when he chose to try to lose me by running around the planet. I chose to go the opposite way around (shortening the distance to less than 1k). I spammed him with CDs until he couldn't get away and opened up on him. If anyone was thrustering to get away it was me. He was in blatant cruise.
Here's a couple of screens to help you out.
Note in this first screen shows Sephardi.B[TBH], aka Zelot, is 215 away from me ... I have ZERO bats and ZERO CMs ... and my shields are at ZERO. Also take note of the 4 Nomads in the area. Oh yes. I had just killed Gonzales[TBH] ... sorry ivr56 ... I am the one that got you.
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Now for screen #2 ... Sephardi.B[TBH] is now 4.2k away and headed for a loop around the planet (sorry couldn't find a pick with the contrail showing ... but I think you can see that I am at 350 speed and he is 4.2k away). Gonzales[TBH] is apologizing to me following his death. Note how I was able to tractor in his CMs but my bats remain at ZERO. Lucky my shields work again. And those pesky Nomads are still on me.
Oh yes ... and here's the screen following his death where he starts his tirade (I'll spare you all the other screens of our little conversation). You'll note here that their friendly Order Cruiser, -=Rus_Amur=-, showed up about the same time Sephardi.B[TBH] was killed (note how close the Order Cruiser is when he Sephardi.B[TBH] begins his verbal assault). And of course those Nomads are still there.
' Wrote:Well ... I was running away (in cruise) and he CD'd continuously until his friend arrived. Then it was CD spam until I ran out of CMs. I was able to get at best 2k from them at any given time. But the spiky rocks in Omicron Kappa make it difficult for a large ship to navigate and get away. So once I ran out of CMs I turned to defend myself. I was able to kill off one of them because the Nomads had already taken their shields down. Then Mr Zelot here chose to jump to cruise to escape. He was not thrustering because you don't get that tell tell contrail from thrusters. He was able to get up to 3k away from me before I jumped to cruise to catch him. While in cruise he maintained a 4k distance ahead of me (not something you can do when one is thrustering and the other is in cruise). I caught up with him when he chose to try to lose me by running around the planet. I chose to go the opposite way around (shortening the distance to less than 1k). I spammed him with CDs until he couldn't get away and opened up on him. If anyone was thrustering to get away it was me. He was in blatant cruise.
Here's a couple of screens to help you out.
Note in this first screen shows Sephardi.B[TBH], aka Zelot, is 215 away from me ... I have ZERO bats and ZERO CMs ... and my shields are at ZERO. Also take note of the 4 Nomads in the area. Oh yes. I had just killed Gonzales[TBH] ... sorry ivr56 ... I am the one that got you.
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Now for screen #2 ... Sephardi.B[TBH] is now 4.2k away and headed for a loop around the planet (sorry couldn't find a pick with the contrail showing ... but I think you can see that I am at 350 speed and he is 4.2k away). Gonzales[TBH] is apologizing to me following his death. Note how I was able to tractor in his CMs but my bats remain at ZERO. Lucky my shields work again. And those pesky Nomads are still on me.
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Yep. It doesn't look to me like any server combat rules were broken.
Ok, first off, I tried to make my original post as generic as possable to aviod the thought that I was trying to flame somebody. I wasnt. I dont threaten, I dont call people out. I guess what I'm saying is I have class. I dont disagree with anyhting said except that I was watching you in my scanner and when I got about 2K away from you you engaged you cruise and shot me. I want trying to start anything but to get a clarification of a rule, which you took as your personal oppurtunity to start flaming me. You want to know why Corsair's dont like Merc's? Because everyone has more wealth than the corsairs, so inevitably you are going to be working for people who hate us (I'll use who you said) such as Rhienland(we just fought a war) and Liberty(they have been trying to stop the artifact trade), so yeah, I have a problem with a merc right next to my home. And I also find it intresting how a merc works for liberty and the order. There is a reason people dont trust mercs.
and one last point. I hope everyone notices that my OOC chat was in a private channel, not in system chat. If you have to have OOC have it there, right?
And all your "dont you ever do this or that" doesnt really endear you to me, and yet still I didnt mention your name or affiliation or anything to identify you, so go suck on a lemon.
Also this is probaly heading down hill, so mabye a topic lock.
As for mercenaries ... don't judge me if you don't know me. I pick and choose who I work for. I have never "hunted" down anyone. I prefer the role of escorting traders when work is available. I also help Liberty and Rheinland with their miscellaneous problems ... mostly Xenos. I also help the Order with their Nomad infestation.
And that "mercenary ban" that the TBH has enacted applies to Omicron Gamma. You came into Omicron Kappa and ordered me to leave. Kappa is neutral turf my classy friend. Note that the planets are both Zoner planets.
Liberty and Rheinland trust me. I was able to earn that trust. I approached the Corsairs for similar neutrality. Instead of welcoming my neutrality I receive attacks. You say you can't trust mercs. Seems your actions prove you cannot be trusted. I offered you cash to disengage and let you know openly I was not interested in fighting. You chose to open fire. Who is it really that cannot be trusted?
To your last point ... OOC is OOC regardless of whether it is private or public. While the rule only states it applies to public chat ... you are still supposed to precede your message with OOC (although many use // instead). Bottom line, you broke RP to start quoting rules to me while another of your friends was attacking me.
Here's a rule you might wanna read closely: 3.5 Attempts to pose as admins, threatening players with sanctions, attempts to interpret rules are not allowed. Applying to admin's name without prior consent of the admin is not allowed.
Note specifically where it says "attempts to interpret rules are not allowed." Don't do this in game ... it disrupts game play.
Topic deletion would be more appropriate. I tried to tell you not to bring this to the forums.
You know, I brought this to the forum so I could get an answer. Again notice how I never brought you into it. It is obvious that some people here don't know how to deal with each other in a mature manner. I sometimes have problems with people, and make a post like this so that I don't bother the admis, and I don't call someone out. Your "see I told you not to post this" wreaks of threatening someone with flames for posting a legitimate question to the community. I am truly getting alittle tired of those threats. As to the Merc issue, as I have explained before on different threads, It is too much of a risk to trust mercs, whatever they say their neutrality is. As to the issue of Kappa being a zoner system because the 2 planets are zoner.....well they are not really zoner, they are not inhabited by humans. One is inhabited by Robots, and I believe the other is inhabited by giant monkeys. Are you calling Zoners monkeys? The Zoners tried to settle the planets but the levels of radiation were deadly to the settlers. Now as the 2 closest populated stations to Kappa are Yaren Base, and Crete, I would say Corsairs have a fairly legitimate claim to be operating there.
and what your ss prove is that I said you cant use cruise in combat. That is what the rule says, not an attempt to interpret it.
That degenerated rather quickly now didn't it. A topic lock is definitely in order here. Look, if you have to post any of the following statements:
"This is not intended as a flame"
"Please don't turn this into a flame fest"
"I don't want to get flamed/flame with this, but"
"I know this will probably result in flames"... see where I'm going with this?
If any of those statements or variations of them need to be put in your topic starting thread, please think twice about starting that topic. It goes with the old addage: If you start a sentence with the words "No offense" someone is about to be offended. TOPIC LOCKED.
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