(05-05-2013, 11:13 AM)BLACKWIDOW Wrote: I found my recent experience with the k hara to be of very poor quality, the incident involved my ship
13th|HMS-Argosax, K,Hara Hammurabi (BS) and titanium reaver + other reavers in Tau 117 during the recent LSF event. I came into tau 117 to see what was going on when I found Titan reaver waiting at the newc jump hole.
Now as far as i am aware the nomads have no RP stance with reavers and thus the two groups should not be working together for the sake of a kill even by meta gaming which just really poor.
Of course, it makes perfect sense to jump into Tau-117 in a Bretonian Battleship.
Also note that the Reavers, and particularly Titanium, have a "relationship" with the K'Hara. You'll probably be able to read more about Titanium's part in this on the forums soon.
Titanium "listened to" my Marduk because of prior events. Red Reaver listened to Titanium because.. Titanium pulls a lot of weight among the Reavers.
But again, the biggest question here is why you jumped your Bret BS into a Wilde guard system (expecting to live?) in the first place.
Edit:
To elaborate further: the Reavers were in that system as they were "asked" or "told" to by Hammurabi. They wouldn't have jumped if it wasn't for the fact that they were essentially hired at that point. Again, wait patiently and all will be clear.
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(05-05-2013, 01:26 PM)BLACKWIDOW Wrote: Reavers PMing Nomads that a BAF BS is here and being told to CD it til the nomad arrives is not Mind Control or RP you Burk!
Actually, it is.
So you are the one who gets smashed all the time with that marduk, why am I not surprised, as for the BS.. you entered a wilde system so you can expect to be shot. As for the P.M, it is meta-gaming, but ofcourse when it involves you directly its rp while others are meta-gaming. As for the feedback, I'll give it 2 out of 10, you die more than what rp you provide which is why I give you 2 points for that, I used to be a fan of you guys, but ever since you cring to other indie nomads like a bunch vassels.. lets just wait till atum moves to newcastle then we'll have more rp and fun.
My group has no RP connections with any nomad groups let alone indies, I think your moaning about the wrong 13th !!!
Wilde dont have a guard system there is only Wilde and thats it, my BAF group is renowned for going into dangerous systems and well a system full of reavers, nomads wilde and LSF who I was going to provide assistance to was an irresistible chance so I went in to Tau 117.
I couldnt care about your feedback score either as your basis for it is stupid thus irrelevant to the fact this is me providing feedback on a poor RP experience I had with the Nomads and Reavers. I expected to die in Tau 117 but not in the way that I did as a result of metagaming, whatever connection Reavers have with KHara also means nothing why, well Reavers have everything that seems to benefit their situation everytime.
They can use any combination of tech to give maximum killing efficiency while having supernatural connections with Nomads yet some how they come out of the interaction as non - infected hmmm, ok then sounds like a crock of crap to me and a pee poor excuse for failed "selective" RP.
(05-05-2013, 11:13 AM)BLACKWIDOW Wrote: I found my recent experience with the k hara to be of very poor quality, the incident involved my ship
13th|HMS-Argosax, K,Hara Hammurabi (BS) and titanium reaver + other reavers in Tau 117 during the recent LSF event. I came into tau 117 to see what was going on when I found Titan reaver waiting at the newc jump hole.
Now as far as i am aware the nomads have no RP stance with reavers and thus the two groups should not be working together for the sake of a kill even by meta gaming which just really poor.
Of course, it makes perfect sense to jump into Tau-117 in a Bretonian Battleship.
Also note that the Reavers, and particularly Titanium, have a "relationship" with the K'Hara. You'll probably be able to read more about Titanium's part in this on the forums soon.
Titanium "listened to" my Marduk because of prior events. Red Reaver listened to Titanium because.. Titanium pulls a lot of weight among the Reavers.
But again, the biggest question here is why you jumped your Bret BS into a Wilde guard system (expecting to live?) in the first place.
Edit:
To elaborate further: the Reavers were in that system as they were "asked" or "told" to by Hammurabi. They wouldn't have jumped if it wasn't for the fact that they were essentially hired at that point. Again, wait patiently and all will be clear.
Moar edit:
(05-05-2013, 01:26 PM)BLACKWIDOW Wrote: Reavers PMing Nomads that a BAF BS is here and being told to CD it til the nomad arrives is not Mind Control or RP you Burk!
Actually, it is.
So you are the one who gets smashed all the time with that marduk, why am I not surprised, as for the BS.. you entered a wilde system so you can expect to be shot. As for the P.M, it is meta-gaming, but ofcourse when it involves you directly its rp while others are meta-gaming. As for the feedback, I'll give it 2 out of 10, you die more than what rp you provide which is why I give you 2 points for that, I used to be a fan of you guys, but ever since you cring to other indie nomads like a bunch vassels.. lets just wait till atum moves to newcastle then we'll have more rp and fun.
My group has no RP connections with any nomad groups let alone indies, I think your moaning about the wrong 13th !!!
Wilde dont have a guard system there is only Wilde and thats it, my BAF group is renowned for going into dangerous systems and well a system full of reavers, nomads wilde and LSF who I was going to provide assistance to was an irresistible chance so I went in to Tau 117.
I couldnt care about your feedback score either as your basis for it is stupid thus irrelevant to the fact this is me providing feedback on a poor RP experience I had with the Nomads and Reavers. I expected to die in Tau 117 but not in the way that I did as a result of metagaming, whatever connection Reavers have with KHara also means nothing why, well Reavers have everything that seems to benefit their situation everytime.
They can use any combination of tech to give maximum killing efficiency while having supernatural connections with Nomads yet some how they come out of the interaction as non - infected hmmm, ok then sounds like a crock of crap to me and a pee poor excuse for failed "selective" RP.
Incase you didn't notice, I qouted the other one, not you -_-
(05-06-2013, 09:27 AM)BLACKWIDOW Wrote: My group has no RP connections with any nomad groups let alone indies, I think your moaning about the wrong 13th !!!
Wilde dont have a guard system there is only Wilde and thats it, my BAF group is renowned for going into dangerous systems and well a system full of reavers, nomads wilde and LSF who I was going to provide assistance to was an irresistible chance so I went in to Tau 117.
I couldnt care about your feedback score either as your basis for it is stupid thus irrelevant to the fact this is me providing feedback on a poor RP experience I had with the Nomads and Reavers. I expected to die in Tau 117 but not in the way that I did as a result of metagaming, whatever connection Reavers have with KHara also means nothing why, well Reavers have everything that seems to benefit their situation everytime.
They can use any combination of tech to give maximum killing efficiency while having supernatural connections with Nomads yet some how they come out of the interaction as non - infected hmmm, ok then sounds like a crock of crap to me and a pee poor excuse for failed "selective" RP.
Wait wait, let me get this straight.
You're ranting about metagaming, and then say you SOMEHOW knew that there was an LSF Recon Force in a nomad system known as 117? Right? Want to tell me how exactly? And don't give me bull on how the LSF requested assistance, because I was in command of that group, and I did not ask for any.
And yes I'm basically saying that -you- metagamed by using the player list, which I normally do not have anything against, simply because everyone uses it as do I. But due to the fact that you're ranting at people because they metagamed and then metagaming yourself, that, I do have a problem with because that's just borderline hypocrisy.
Now let's switch to the Reavers. You're saying that they always have something benefiting them at all times? I hope you realize that the Reavers have been around for a very long time, I'm quite sure they've been around much much before you even -heard- of Discovery. Sure they weren't that active 4 years ago but in the past 2 they have been. Which means they've had a high number of interactions with others and they use those connections wisely. The roleplay between the Reavers and K'hara is actually legit and has been around, as for the "making sense" of it part, a Nomad Marduk has more than enough telepathic power to "PM" someone without a hitch, now considering that as far as I know, the Reavers use Barrier Gate as a station they base out of, and considering that 117 is literally a jump away. A Marduk can EASILY communicate with them however it wished to, it allowed for the Reaver to jump into 117.
The others were still in coronado at the gate because they weren't given permission. Of course you could say I'm lying, but I myself while in command of the LSF strike force, once we had completed our secondary-scanning of the system, wanted to get out, and the moment I appeared within the gate's radius I saw the duk as well as a reaver, I just waited there, making it seem as if I was engaging the marduk because I knew for a fact that there were reavers on that gate at the other side, they didn't jump in to assist which was odd. But after we jumped and most of my group got killed, I pm'd one of the reavers asking why they hadn't jumped and ofc ranting about how my guys died (but you see I know most of the reavers on a friendly scale) and he responded that the Marduk hadn't let them.
See that? That's role-play.
Now let's look at yours.
Bretonia, got mauled by Kusari for years, losing quite a bit of their warships and military might, as well as economic stability hitting the floor. Then comes GALLIA, which, is obviously going to roll over them.
Now explain to me your justification of bringing a Bretonian BATTLESHIP? I don't see how Bretonia could even spare a destroyer (let alone a battleship) to go into a hostile system where it would be getting no back-up whatsoever, and alone?
Tough, isn't it? Now I normally don't care about specific RP such as that, do whatever you wish with your caps. But when you start throwing rants at people's faces about how they're metagaming and doing RP WRONG, and you yourself have no idea what RP is, that's when it becomes wrong.
Get your facts (happy Summer? - Yeah) straight. And please refer to my signature if you have another comeback rant which makes no sense whatsoever.
(05-06-2013, 09:27 AM)BLACKWIDOW Wrote: My group has no RP connections with any nomad groups let alone indies, I think your moaning about the wrong 13th !!!
Wilde dont have a guard system there is only Wilde and thats it, my BAF group is renowned for going into dangerous systems and well a system full of reavers, nomads wilde and LSF who I was going to provide assistance to was an irresistible chance so I went in to Tau 117.
I couldnt care about your feedback score either as your basis for it is stupid thus irrelevant to the fact this is me providing feedback on a poor RP experience I had with the Nomads and Reavers. I expected to die in Tau 117 but not in the way that I did as a result of metagaming, whatever connection Reavers have with KHara also means nothing why, well Reavers have everything that seems to benefit their situation everytime.
They can use any combination of tech to give maximum killing efficiency while having supernatural connections with Nomads yet some how they come out of the interaction as non - infected hmmm, ok then sounds like a crock of crap to me and a pee poor excuse for failed "selective" RP.
Wait wait, let me get this straight.
You're ranting about metagaming, and then say you SOMEHOW knew that there was an LSF Recon Force in a nomad system known as 117? Right? Want to tell me how exactly? And don't give me bull on how the LSF requested assistance, because I was in command of that group, and I did not ask for any.
And yes I'm basically saying that -you- metagamed by using the player list, which I normally do not have anything against, simply because everyone uses it as do I. But due to the fact that you're ranting at people because they metagamed and then metagaming yourself, that, I do have a problem with because that's just borderline hypocrisy.
Now let's switch to the Reavers. You're saying that they always have something benefiting them at all times? I hope you realize that the Reavers have been around for a very long time, I'm quite sure they've been around much much before you even -heard- of Discovery. Sure they weren't that active 4 years ago but in the past 2 they have been. Which means they've had a high number of interactions with others and they use those connections wisely. The roleplay between the Reavers and K'hara is actually legit and has been around, as for the "making sense" of it part, a Nomad Marduk has more than enough telepathic power to "PM" someone without a hitch, now considering that as far as I know, the Reavers use Barrier Gate as a station they base out of, and considering that 117 is literally a jump away. A Marduk can EASILY communicate with them however it wished to, it allowed for the Reaver to jump into 117.
The others were still in coronado at the gate because they weren't given permission. Of course you could say I'm lying, but I myself while in command of the LSF strike force, once we had completed our secondary-scanning of the system, wanted to get out, and the moment I appeared within the gate's radius I saw the duk as well as a reaver, I just waited there, making it seem as if I was engaging the marduk because I knew for a fact that there were reavers on that gate at the other side, they didn't jump in to assist which was odd. But after we jumped and most of my group got killed, I pm'd one of the reavers asking why they hadn't jumped and ofc ranting about how my guys died (but you see I know most of the reavers on a friendly scale) and he responded that the Marduk hadn't let them.
See that? That's role-play.
Now let's look at yours.
Bretonia, got mauled by Kusari for years, losing quite a bit of their warships and military might, as well as economic stability hitting the floor. Then comes GALLIA, which, is obviously going to roll over them.
Now explain to me your justification of bringing a Bretonian BATTLESHIP? I don't see how Bretonia could even spare a destroyer (let alone a battleship) to go into a hostile system where it would be getting no back-up whatsoever, and alone?
Tough, isn't it? Now I normally don't care about specific RP such as that, do whatever you wish with your caps. But when you start throwing rants at people's faces about how they're metagaming and doing RP WRONG, and you yourself have no idea what RP is, that's when it becomes wrong.
Get your facts (happy Summer? - Yeah) straight. And please refer to my signature if you have another comeback rant which makes no sense whatsoever.
Before I go to the toilet let me just say i have been on disco longer than you or the reavers and am in thus a far better position to understand what rp is than you are.
In relation to your sig well such a reply is to be expected of pubescent hormonal spotty teenagers fresh out of grad skool!!
I have commanded 2 of the most successful indy factions ever seen on Disco before their falls, where at their peaks the number of active members in each group under my command was 10+.
The groups were Les~Vampirs Brigand Faction and the 13th Northern fleet both of which rivalled the GRN| and BAF| in activity within the respective houses my factions were based in. So my RP Pedigree is assured, the RP behind my ship being in tau 117 will be explained soon enough.
Well, I don't see how any of the things you said, are relevant to the topic -at all-, and considering the fact that you can't bring up your justification and you need time with it already tells me quite a bit of how legit it's going to be. Or the lack thereof.
Oh and, rivaling the GRN| or BAF| in activity is actually not really something to brag about if you ask me. Les Vampirs and the 13th? I've been around for more than five years, probably bordering six. Most of my factions have been concentrated around the Taus and their neighboring systems. And considering every single Gallic faction has basically nothing to do in Gallia they come out to at least the Taus. In that whole time I have never heard of the "Les Vampirs" before, and if I did they probably weren't important enough to catch my attention.
The 13th is just a group of indi caps I believe, whose roleplay doesn't seem to go beyond of a normal capital ship crew, which it shouldn't anyway.
So in the end, while "the best" is a subjective term, in my opinion, the only list your factions belonged on was the one that listed the factions that never actually mattered and never did anything even slightly significant.
This is a faction feedback. Its not to point out who is better. Feedback has been given and responded on. If you have more feedback about another encounter please do not hessitate to give it, but keep in mind its purpose is a feedback. If you have more questions about this issue i have to refer you to Nosferath he can answer all your questions.
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My Bretonian Battleship is not your regular BS it is an experimental Type - 571 Dunkirk Battleship equipped with enhanced Armour, Powercore and Light Bending Technology (Cloak).
All equip upgrades on my ship are backed up by previous forum RP written by myself and melded well into the story line of the 13th Northern Fleet which also was not your average Bretonian Fleet we carried out daring raids against the GRN using Cloaks and other things, leading to over 30 Valor Kills while we were active.
Im not one for Lore RP its boring and you cannot expect everyone to stick to it thus all Bretonian Warships stay in bretonia no, not my group ( 13th| )!! We did things differently and it worked!
So my BS is more than capable to jump into Tau 117 and observe what is going on, What I should have done was enter Tau 117 Cloaked which I didnt hence this unfortunate encounter. Besides there are BAF Satellites close to the Tau 117 JH so any activity in that area would have been picked up, whether interesting or not. My Ship did so we went in!
(05-09-2013, 06:11 PM)Soul Reaper Wrote: Well, I don't see how any of the things you said, are relevant to the topic -at all-, and considering the fact that you can't bring up your justification and you need time with it already tells me quite a bit of how legit it's going to be. Or the lack thereof.
Oh and, rivaling the GRN| or BAF| in activity is actually not really something to brag about if you ask me. Les Vampirs and the 13th? I've been around for more than five years, probably bordering six. Most of my factions have been concentrated around the Taus and their neighboring systems. And considering every single Gallic faction has basically nothing to do in Gallia they come out to at least the Taus. In that whole time I have never heard of the "Les Vampirs" before, and if I did they probably weren't important enough to catch my attention.
The 13th is just a group of indi caps I believe, whose roleplay doesn't seem to go beyond of a normal capital ship crew, which it shouldn't anyway.
So in the end, while "the best" is a subjective term, in my opinion, the only list your factions belonged on was the one that listed the factions that never actually mattered and never did anything even slightly significant.
You're a funny person, I'll give you that.
You have been here since 2009 so I make that 4 years unless you have a degree in maths too? Which I doubt as I do!
My groups did matter to disco and during their existence played a very significant role in the areas of RP they were involved in especially 13th| just because they never made it to officialdom is irrelevant to the point.
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Join date and post count has absolutely nothing to do with your proficiency with roleplay. I may inverse both of your post counts if you carry on with the off topic though.