Zoners

[Pinko]

Anyone remembers the Asgard Warriors?

Those were the days.

EDIT: Hello Sad.

[Lythrilux]

How about we illustrate this with this, instead?

The Order - who are Zoner allies - made an in-RP post reminding Zoners in general about their rules regarding Nomad parts. The official factions all said, yep, we remember these rules, and have no issues with them because you're our allies.

The non-official factions and other groups are going, No, we're not going to listen to you, we're not going to pay attention to you, and we're gonna do whatever we want, and you can't make us.

In other words, they're crapping all over their alliance with the one group that actually likes them because the players behind the characters are whiny, selfish brats. I can conceive of no other reason why they would so totally ignore the lore and the roleplay of multiple official factions. I think my general response to that would be - don't be shocked and go crying to the Order for assistance when the Core comes along and blows your butt up for carrying Nomad remains. Welcome to actions have consequences.

That's much more than alliance, its sucking up to. Pheonix are quick to be the muppets, licking omicron's butt in every situation, but ofcourse people such as yourself are rushed to shower them with nobel prizes. And what lore is that? Zoners are and should be aggressive in nature, because they come from different backgrounds, you make me lol.

What...
That's like saying all black people steal, shoot, rape and are poor because they're from africa.

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[Thyrzul]

That's much more than alliance, its sucking up to. Pheonix are quick to be the muppets, licking omicron's butt in every situation, but ofcourse people such as yourself are rushed to shower them with nobel prizes. And what lore is that? Zoners are and should be aggressive in nature, because they come from different backgrounds, you make me lol.

Call it whatever you want, it's still the key of survival out there in the Omicrons. As been said before, if you don't play nice, your neighbors will smash you hard.

And I don't think you have too much power or authority here to question the Zoner lore.

What about the ZA? Who did they ignore? are you stuck? they have been friendly with the corsairs for years are you kidding me? you should wake up, like now. Maybe till today you were used to get your sandwich from other people, but not anymore, I guess thats why the "leaders" hate us, because we don't give a damn about their "feelings" - because A: They show no feelings towards us, and B : They don't deserve that. You mean to tell me that I should respect and cring under someone who has supported the killing of my group? (/omicron ) - you are A LOL as well.

Edit2: Don't rush and excuse me of cuasing offence, that's my genuine opinion about your riff-raff diplomacy with these "leaders" ; Order has taken its side with the pheonix, so it doesn't matter what we do or how we act, its funny because.. pheonix are not supposed to be in 74, apart from administrating livadia, check out their rp.
Ofcourse pheonix are real zoners, that is why they don't do a damn when freeport is being hit, or other zoners are in trouble there. Now that I think about it, they are weakining.

Who did they ignore? Order... oh wait, no, they didn't ignore them, they went outright against them. Even better.

And what years are you talking about? The ZA is not even half a year old. If so friendly with Corsairs, why did you question their authority in Theta?

"Not giving a damn about their feelings" is a very baaaaaad way to handle diplomatic issues. You know, they may feel the same and shoot you down without "giving a damn about your feelings".

Order took their side with the Phoenix because they proved to be way more supportive than you group. Are you seriously surprised by that? Are you really surprised that they did not take your side when you went directly against them regardless of lore alliance?

About my "riff-raff" diplomacy: It's not my diplomacy, what I am, and many others here try to communicate to you is the general approach and diplomacy by which the other Zoner factions, which still exist to this day, approached their surroundings.

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[Zen_Mechanics]

That's much more than alliance, its sucking up to. Pheonix are quick to be the muppets, licking omicron's butt in every situation, but ofcourse people such as yourself are rushed to shower them with nobel prizes. And what lore is that? Zoners are and should be aggressive in nature, because they come from different backgrounds, you make me lol.

Call it whatever you want, it's still the key of survival out there in the Omicrons. As been said before, if you don't play nice, your neighbors will smash you hard.

And I don't think you have too much power or authority here to question the Zoner lore.

What about the ZA? Who did they ignore? are you stuck? they have been friendly with the corsairs for years are you kidding me? you should wake up, like now. Maybe till today you were used to get your sandwich from other people, but not anymore, I guess thats why the "leaders" hate us, because we don't give a damn about their "feelings" - because A: They show no feelings towards us, and B : They don't deserve that. You mean to tell me that I should respect and cring under someone who has supported the killing of my group? (/omicron ) - you are A LOL as well.

Edit2: Don't rush and excuse me of cuasing offence, that's my genuine opinion about your riff-raff diplomacy with these "leaders" ; Order has taken its side with the pheonix, so it doesn't matter what we do or how we act, its funny because.. pheonix are not supposed to be in 74, apart from administrating livadia, check out their rp.
Ofcourse pheonix are real zoners, that is why they don't do a damn when freeport is being hit, or other zoners are in trouble there. Now that I think about it, they are weakining.

Who did they ignore? Order... oh wait, no, they didn't ignore them, they went outright against them. Even better.

And what years are you talking about? The ZA is not even half a year old. If so friendly with Corsairs, why did you question their authority in Theta?

"Not giving a damn about their feelings" is a very baaaaaad way to handle diplomatic issues. You know, they may feel the same and shoot you down without "giving a damn about your feelings".

Order took their side with the Phoenix because they proved to be way more supportive than you group. Are you seriously surprised by that? Are you really surprised that they did not take your side when you went directly against them regardless of lore alliance?

About my "riff-raff" diplomacy: It's not my diplomacy, what I am, and many others here try to communicate to you is the general approach and diplomacy by which the other Zoner factions, which still exist to this day, approached their surroundings.

Im not questioning you , I know you have a lot of sense in what you are saying, but the evidence shows us that this is not about dialouge or mutual understanding or bridge building and blah blah, its either follow our rules or get out, and we don't like taking orders from people who have a narrow agenda, haven't you wondered why we don't have that attitude with the taz or osi? because they don't complain and they don't give us orders and thats why we listen to them, ALWAYS. But, when it comes to omicron-74, my outmost respect to everyone, No Order shall ever treat a zoner with disrespect, and no order ID' nephilim should ever threat zoners in 74, and Order must never pick sides in a zoner issue, which they did and have. The truth can be painful when you don't want to hear it, but sometimes you gotta hear it, and the turth is - that wethe they like it or not, were not going anywhere, so they might as well stop ordering us to do that or do this, as long as were not Order, we don't take "orders" from them, and the opinions that they hold no longer seems valid to us because they want pheonix,; we are considered a threat to their cousy buble of control. oh and btw, ZA is actually "Zoner-" and it exists for two years now.

Edit 2 : 141| are considered allies, even though we haven't made any agreements with them, but they don't whine and complain, they are there to do the job, killing nomads and protecting man-kind, they don't take sides in zoner conflicts or whine about politics or give orders to other people ( well they do, but in a fair way ).

Edit 3 : I embrace and accept reality, I know people don't like that, but people will always find something to whinge about, sure we may have a different view of things, but thats our choice and our decision and we know what were doing, so thank you.

Edir 4 : And I gotta ask, what about our side? so far I've heard complaints and not one of you have said anything about our rights, is that it? is that the philosopy? might makes right? the more power you have the more crap you can get away with?
And personaly speaking, I like omicron, he is refreshing and interesting and I enjoy RP with him, but I didn't start this clashing, and because people like to get into the little details, I am forced to do so as well.

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Were fools to make war on our brothers in arms.

[Omicron]

But, when it comes to omicron-74, my outmost respect to everyone, No Order shall ever treat a zoner with disrespect, and no order ID' nephilim should ever threat zoners in 74, and Order must never pick sides in a zoner issue, which they did and have.

I wonder whether it is just attempt to look big or ZA actually can back up your words with diplomacy/strenght. Order will continue to do what is best for The Order - with or without you. BTW. This Zoner dreadnought with Order ID have longer history than your entire faction.

Edit 2 : 141| are considered allies, even though we haven't made any agreements with them, but they don't whine and complain, they are there to do the job, killing nomads and protecting man-kind, they don't take sides in zoner conflicts or whine about politics or give orders to other people ( well they do, but in a fair way ).

Your lack of knowledge concerning how Order and Overwatch works internally comes out here, right now. However I will let you to discover by yourself where you have made an error here.

Edit 3 : I embrace and accept reality, I know people don't like that, but people will always find something to whinge about, sure we may have a different view of things, but thats our choice and our decision and we know what were doing, so thank you.

I doubt you know what you are doing in retrospection to history of previous factions akin to ZA, but that's your character's funeral - not mine. In fact I doubt you know what happened/want to remember to your precedessors. This way or another, whatever way Omicron 74 story ends, it will be funny.

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[Zen_Mechanics]

But, when it comes to omicron-74, my outmost respect to everyone, No Order shall ever treat a zoner with disrespect, and no order ID' nephilim should ever threat zoners in 74, and Order must never pick sides in a zoner issue, which they did and have.

I wonder whether it is just attempt to look big or ZA actually can back up your words with diplomacy/strenght. Order will continue to do what is best for The Order - with or without you. BTW. This Zoner dreadnought with Order ID have longer history than your entire faction.

Edit 2 : 141| are considered allies, even though we haven't made any agreements with them, but they don't whine and complain, they are there to do the job, killing nomads and protecting man-kind, they don't take sides in zoner conflicts or whine about politics or give orders to other people ( well they do, but in a fair way ).

Your lack of knowledge concerning how Order and Overwatch works internally comes out here, right now. However I will let you to discover by yourself where you have made an error here.

Edit 3 : I embrace and accept reality, I know people don't like that, but people will always find something to whinge about, sure we may have a different view of things, but thats our choice and our decision and we know what were doing, so thank you.

I doubt you know what you are doing in retrospection to history of previous factions akin to ZA, but that's your character's funeral - not mine. In fact I doubt you know what happened/want to remember to your precedessors. This way or another, whatever way Omicron 74 story ends, it will be funny.

You may have a long history with it, but still youre using a zoner ship against a zoner pilot, that's got to put some blood pressure to people. And regarding history, this is not history, its the present and things are different, so rather then talking about the past, talk about the present, and the present tells me, you , order, pheonix, taz, admins, god, that solutions are not to be found in the past but in the present.

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Were fools to make war on our brothers in arms.

[Thyrzul]

Im not questioning you , I know you have a lot of sense in what you are saying, but the evidence shows us that this is not about dialouge or mutual understanding or bridge building and blah blah, its either follow our rules or get out, and we don't like taking orders from people who have a narrow agenda, haven't you wondered why we don't have that attitude with the taz or osi? because they don't complain and they don't give us orders and thats why we listen to them, ALWAYS. But, when it comes to omicron-74, my outmost respect to everyone, No Order shall ever treat a zoner with disrespect, and no order ID' nephilim should ever threat zoners in 74, and Order must never pick sides in a zoner issue, which they did and have. The truth can be painful when you don't want to hear it, but sometimes you gotta hear it, and the turth is - that wethe they like it or not, were not going anywhere, so they might as well stop ordering us to do that or do this, as long as were not Order, we don't take "orders" from them, and the opinions that they hold no longer seems valid to us because they want pheonix,; we are considered a threat to their cousy buble of control. oh and btw, ZA is actually "Zoner-" and it exists for two years now.

You know, the difference between TAZ/OSI and Order is that the formers are either far away from the Omicrons and give near no crap about what is happening here, not interested in nomad business or leaving that up to the Order, while the latter is by lore the experts who dedicated their lives to fend off the alien threat and prevent any disasters related to their existence. Sure it won't be the TAZ/OSI telling you to stop, it is the job of the Order to take preventive measures.

And again, don't be surprised that the Order rather chosen the supportive than the insulting and threatening group of Zoners.

Edit 3 : I embrace and accept reality, I know people don't like that, but people will always find something to whinge about, sure we may have a different view of things, but thats our choice and our decision and we know what were doing, so thank you.

Indeed your decision, but the consequences will be yours to bear as well, keep that in mind.

Edir 4 : And I gotta ask, what about our side? so far I've heard complaints and not one of you have said anything about our rights, is that it? is that the philosopy? might makes right? the more power you have the more crap you can get away with?

You had a pretty rough time around the Omicrons lately and been building up hostilities around yourselves that I doubt any rights you may claim for yourselves wouldn't be disregarded by your neighbors.

However, your latest move may be a good start for a change, and I expect you to cut any further crap about others "sucking up" to Order. That would be a bit hypocritical.

EDIT:

You may have a long history with it, but still youre using a zoner ship against a zoner pilot, that's got to put some blood pressure to people. And regarding history, this is not history, its the present and things are different, so rather then talking about the past, talk about the present, and the present tells me, you , order, pheonix, taz, admins, god, that solutions are not to be found in the past but in the present.

Weren't you the one bragging about how friendly you were with Corsairs for years? And now you had issues with them too, cutting food supply lines for a while. Let's then forget the past and concentrate about the present, shall we?

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[Jose Benitez]

Solutions may be found in the present, but it is the actions of the past that will cause reactions in the present.

If you shot at me yesterday I will shoot at you today. Ignore history at your peril.

As for a Zoner ship against a Zoner pilot.... so what? Surely your concern should relate to the issue that the Zoner pilot is being shot at?

In truth I'd not be suprised if the Order refused to come to your aid if they felt you had done something politically silly. Why would they want to involve themselves in something that does not benefit the Order?

That's not to say they would not honour their agreements with Zoners at large, but if individuals are hell bent on their own destruction eventually you need to get out of the way and let those individulas get on with it.

[Crackpunch]

Zoners are and should be aggressive in nature, because they come from different backgrounds

Zoners that are aggressive in nature are called indie pirates.

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[Lythrilux]

But, when it comes to omicron-74, my outmost respect to everyone, No Order shall ever treat a zoner with disrespect, and no order ID' nephilim should ever threat zoners in 74, and Order must never pick sides in a zoner issue, which they did and have.

I wonder whether it is just attempt to look big or ZA actually can back up your words with diplomacy/strenght. Order will continue to do what is best for The Order - with or without you. BTW. This Zoner dreadnought with Order ID have longer history than your entire faction.

Edit 2 : 141| are considered allies, even though we haven't made any agreements with them, but they don't whine and complain, they are there to do the job, killing nomads and protecting man-kind, they don't take sides in zoner conflicts or whine about politics or give orders to other people ( well they do, but in a fair way ).

Your lack of knowledge concerning how Order and Overwatch works internally comes out here, right now. However I will let you to discover by yourself where you have made an error here.

Edit 3 : I embrace and accept reality, I know people don't like that, but people will always find something to whinge about, sure we may have a different view of things, but thats our choice and our decision and we know what were doing, so thank you.

I doubt you know what you are doing in retrospection to history of previous factions akin to ZA, but that's your character's funeral - not mine. In fact I doubt you know what happened/want to remember to your precedessors. This way or another, whatever way Omicron 74 story ends, it will be funny.

You may have a long history with it, but still youre using a zoner ship against a zoner pilot, that's got to put some blood pressure to people. And regarding history, this is not history, its the present and things are different, so rather then talking about the past, talk about the present, and the present tells me, you , order, pheonix, taz, admins, god, that solutions are not to be found in the past but in the present.

You should see hellfire killing outcasts with their 'dreadnought'.

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