Firstly, stupid timing to start critizising the Admin team. We need them daily to protect us from cheater attacks. Therefore, they have to be online, motivated, not hidden somewhere and going "ah, f******* this, I'll not bother."
Therefore: Option 1.
Swift justice. Fast reactions.
I do not care whether it is all in line with "the old way".
Why? The old way is too lenient and soft anyway.
(08-28-2013, 09:48 AM)Jack_Henderson Wrote: Firstly, stupid timing to start critizising the Admin team. We need them daily to protect us from cheater attacks. Therefore, they have to be online, motivated, not hidden somewhere and going "ah, f******* this, I'll not bother."
Therefore: Option 1.
Swift justice. Fast reactions.
I do not care whether it is all in line with "the old way".
Why? The old way is too lenient and soft anyway.
Jack actually sums it up for me.
They're doing a job, and recently it's starting to become a better as they are patrolling more, yet we are bitching at them for no real reason.
Like I said, I made a complaint, seems they took it into account. I for one am happy and content with what the admins are doing.
Widow, Jansen and Champ are all doing a good job (y).
And yeah, Swift Justice and Fast Reactions are the way to go, so I retract my second post.
(08-28-2013, 09:48 AM)Jack_Henderson Wrote: I do not care whether it is all in line with "the old way".
Why? The old way is too lenient and soft anyway.
It's not about being lenient or soft - I can't see how that comes into play - it's about justice being arbitrary or not. So 2, otherwise Disco would crumble and the QQ-torrents would read magnificent heights when one of the "good guys" get accidentally hit.
Also (admin) trial by forum? Don't see the purpose of this thread whatsoever, we as players should really just back off and give the admins a bit of space, rather than pile our expectations on to them, it's foolish and childish.
(08-28-2013, 09:48 AM)Jack_Henderson Wrote: Firstly, stupid timing to start critizising the Admin team. We need them daily to protect us from cheater attacks. Therefore, they have to be online, motivated, not hidden somewhere and going "ah, f******* this, I'll not bother."
Right, before more of you assume I am actually criticizing the team as it is let me assure you this is not what you're claiming it too be.
What my intention is to do here is create a little more insight on how and why things are run the way they are, and the potential consequences and positive reactions that are currently happening and are going to be in the future. Bag on me for asking the community for their opinion, that's perfectly fine. It's what I am here for. But question yourselves this; wouldn't it be a little more reassuring that there is a level of transparency I am providing regarding the administration team and how we see things, and how they see things? I am in a privileged position where I can see both sides and sure, it might seem unfair or biased, conspiracy or favouritism. But the objectives are being achieved, and there is a method to my madness. I have faith in this team, don't question that. What I am trying to understand from the community here is what you would like to see, what you would like see happen. Someone made a simple error, and a situation arose which presented a poor reflection on the actions of the team. I used it as an example, and tried to be vague about it as my intention was not the incident itself, but others incidents as well like the insta-banning of hackers, something we all can agree is a pro to initiatives. Back off on the trial by forum as this is not the intention, but more at my attempt at show you as players how complications can arise, and what we can discuss as a community is what we want and how we want it.
(08-28-2013, 10:14 AM)Anaximander Wrote:
(08-28-2013, 09:48 AM)Jack_Henderson Wrote: I do not care whether it is all in line with "the old way".
Why? The old way is too lenient and soft anyway.
It's not about being lenient or soft - I can't see how that comes into play - it's about justice being arbitrary or not. So 2, otherwise Disco would crumble and the QQ-torrents would read magnificent heights when one of the "good guys" get accidentally hit.
Also (admin) trial by forum? Don't see the purpose of this thread whatsoever, we as players should really just back off and give the admins a bit of space, rather than pile our expectations on to them, it's foolish and childish.
Expectations? What would you expect from our administration team when you lose a ship, get scammed by someone, need some advice, have your confidence in them to lead as they're put in a position to do so.
Again, you're assuming I'm trying to get dear old Jansey in the crap, but what I am bringing to your attention is the problem itself, and the questions it raises.
This isn't a trial, and if you're judging then you've come to the wrong court house. All Rise.
Second option. I'd rather have a house built in 10 years and made of solid concrete than a house built in one day and made exclusively from sand paper.
On second thought, I'd rather go for a mixture of two. Admin teamwork is necessary to maintain integrity and to prevent any major/minor inconveniences like certain admins acting in opposition to others, misplaced favours, unfair sanctions, etc ... stuff which may or may not be done on purpose.
However, a bit of individuality would be required as well from time to time to allow the admins the possibility to deliver a fast response to obvious stuff such as cheaters on the server
(08-10-2015, 07:03 PM)Antonio- Wrote: King Eduard is the greatest
Well I think the only expectation that is really fair to have is that the Admin team abide by their own regulations and process the sanction reports eventually. I think it is unfair to expect that any single Admin can be free of bias and always exercise fair justice.
It will just create discord and strife, skype running hot with "this admin thinks x should be sanctioned, but this other admin doesn't, I think I will go make a discussion thread on the forum" blablablablabla. It's a terrible idea when you really think of it.
If I got scammed etc. I would submit a report and then rest assured it will be processed and put it out of my mind. I think it is fair if the Admin team expects this of us players. I played here for quite a while, and I've submitted less than 10 reports and in hindsight half of those were submitted because I was still angry with the person that did me wrong.
I think things would be easier for admin team and players alike if people just relaxed a bit, it's just a game. No need to cry mommy hit the report button every single time the opportunity arises.
(08-27-2013, 11:51 PM)Altejago Wrote: This is part in parcel to why an uncannily popular Admin made his leave because some of these new Admins are making these decisions solely on their own.
Of which admin do you speak?
I want admins who sanction people without checking if the person is another admin's friend first.
(08-27-2013, 11:51 PM)Altejago Wrote: Now I believe most of you look down upon me for my various rages and swearing episodes,
Not really. I look down on you because you relly on your relationship with one or more admins to get away with it.
Quote: One thing I have noticed of late is the
amount of undermining I see going on
with in the Admin team currently, both
via Widow and other Admins deserving
of respect, to actions being undertaken
by some of our newer and lesser experienced Admin recruits.
Tell me more about how this thread is a discussion about admin transparency.
Where is my first post? What rules did i break for it to get deleted.