.:j:.Rattlehead New London 161 0 10
[*USI*]Albuquerque[L-E] New York 98 0 18
[*USI*]Chicago New York 46 0 6
[*USI*]J.Nowakowsky[CA] New York 92 0 0
[KNF]Ni.Katsumi.Takeda New Tokyo 120 0 0
[SC]The.Boss New Tokyo 207 0 8
[UC]UCN-Vendeur.1 Burgundy 369 0 2
^DragonFly^ Omicron Gamma 59 0 2
_atenza Hamburg 54 0 2
_OZYRYS_ Lyonnais 31 0 0
|IDF|Thorkel Languedoc 66 0 10
1Piu Connecticut 59 0 0
4-56|LN-A.Henderson-B New York 114 0 2
Active_Mars_Red_91 Colorado 49 0 8
Alternate_Galliger Manchester 82 0 2
AmagetDOWN New Berlin 418 0 46
AncientAnt Newcastle 41 0 0
ArgRIB New Berlin 467 0 0
Banshee Omicron-81 64 0 2
Beowolf Omega-55 51 0 0
BloodTrader California 77 0 2
Bonus.BoxIV Frankfurt 168 0 0
BRF|HMS-Sutton Connecticut 53 0 0
Burnout Hudson 100 0 0
Captain_Sao_Feng Cambridge 58 0 0
Captain-Pellaeon Omega-3 60 0 4
CARRIER Ile-de-France 100 0 0
Carthage Omicron Gamma 64 0 2
Cerulean!Reaver California 42 0 0
Chaotic California 194 1 14
Charlemagne Provence 113 2 0
Charlotte.Dunois New York 53 0 0
Dazed.and.Confused Newcastle 153 0 8
Eden-Martina Virginia 45 0 0
Edgnis Omicron Mu 46 0 0
Eldrich New Berlin 47 0 0
Elysium's_Gate Omega-7 116 1 6
Englebert New Berlin 48 0 0
evoga2 Tau-23 60 0 6
FLYNPCS New Berlin 145 0 0
Forlavee_Junior Sigma-17 196 0 0
Gamboge,.Reaver New York 138 0 0
GMI-PierreMartin[T] Picardy 59 0 10
Hank_Groger New York 25 0 0
Hasbelt New York 56 0 4
HMS-Striker Connecticut 28 0 0
Horune New York 59 0 0
IMG|Frank.Rogers[R] Kyushu 64 0 4
IMG|Golden.Nebula Omega-3 51 0 0
IMG|Julia:Morrow Sigma-13 56 0 0
IMG|Mat.Evanz Kyushu 49 0 4
IMG|Mr.Otwell. Tau-23 53 0 6
IMG|Piper.Maru[R] Kyushu 263 0 0
IMG|Redstone-4 Kyushu 66 0 12
IMG-Westrok Tau-23 360 1 8
jibs New York 101 0 0
Johnywalker Pennsylvania 55 0 0
Kanis New York 67 0 2
kreetzer Hamburg 44 0 2
LNS-Bs.Massachusetts Connecticut 126 0 16
LNS-Concord New York 55 0 0
Loky Alberta 43 0 0
Matilda_Antioch California 42 0 0
Meta-Beepo Newcastle 96 1 0
Michael.Minster New Tokyo 66 0 0
MND|RNC-Col.Wallenstein Connecticut 38 0 0
Moonwalker[13th] Connecticut 43 0 0
MORPHONYX Colorado 58 0 0
MV-Crayter Okinawa 56 0 0
Ol'Scrappy Texas 59 0 6
O'Rhu|CV-Sakir'har Omicron Mu 55 0 10
Pale:Reaver California 160 0 0
Partisan Cambridge 145 0 0
Pedro.Rodriguez New York 279 0 2
piroman Galileo 48 0 0
Raistlin New London 314 0 4
RM-Brandenburg Connecticut 49 0 0
Roger_Groger New York 28 0 2
Rognor New York 73 0 4
S.I.D._ZETA_12 New York 173 0 0
Sillyband Shikoku 209 0 0
Skinfaxi Omicron Kappa 91 0 2
SW)The.Digger New London 47 0 2
Tator,Salad New London 155 0 6
The_Prophecy California 190 0 0
Tiberia Cambridge 55 0 6
Tony_Marani Connecticut 34 0 0
Troy.Kingston New York 279 0 20
Turmoil Connecticut 171 0 2
USS_Defiant Leeds 137 0 0
VI|CPM-Equality Omega-7 122 0 0
VI|CPM-Glory Koeln 42 0 0
VR-Paddy.Hughs New Berlin 47 0 0
VR-Persia.de.Shahrizai New Berlin 88 0 0
Xiaoge Newcastle 47 0 0
Zantac Dublin 54 0 0
Zuretz Omega-3 254 0 0
^
That's the playerlist I just took down. From my count (correct me if I'm wrong), I counted 19 Official-Faction ships logged in, out of 98-ish online players.
Laura C and Silver are completely correct. The playerlist above has approximately 1/5th Official-faction players logged on. Who knows what all the others are, but clearly most of them are either uninterested or unwilling to attempt to join an official faction for whatever reason.
I'm not sure how to fix the problem, but I'm thinking that official factions are going to slowly decline as they have been unless the Disco powers-that-be take some kind of means towards combating this.
Official factions leaders and their factions have put forward suggestions. Ideas for changes etc.
The official response was to ignore them, belittle them or attack their factions.
Are you surprised by the faction leaders indifference?
Really?
Quote:Fact is that 70% of factions are on the life support with few people trying to keep them alive for sake of keeping it alive. No purpose can be seen so far. Hope for the best future maybe?
But new players are just forming own unofficial factions and formations with own rules, ranks, story or whatever they want because there is no difference. Or not forming factions at all. Indy for the win. Someone wanted that so hard and he's not around to see the spoils of all the fails.
can propose to revert to all the old systems we had - old tech system especially, or old pvp rules, or whatever. Or better - I won't do anything because I don't particularly care any longer. I wasted enough time on giving all sorts of suggestions, proposals, reviews and other useless crap that no one in admin team read\notice\take seriously.
Let them do what they want, it's easier for us all. Once this turn into unplayable crap I'm going to rest my cases and leave. Now it's barely holding with little to no positive progress.
Factions decaying is just a symptom of the more global and conceptual problems.
Well said....sadly.
What's bizarre is that it keeps pushing on down the same route every update despite it's clearly not developing well in that direction.
Disco has stopped focusing on it's strengths and concentrated on everyone else's. Problem is, it's not very good at them and should have stuck to what it did best.
Not me, but ask in general. I already wrote my pov as a casual gamer, but I am completely sure there are other players out there who would be suitable to join a faction but don't for various reasons.
It would be better to ask them about those rather than go "it must be because they want no restrictions, don't care for roleplay, and don't speak english - admins pls punish" and then slip back into faction in-activity, right? I mean how about being a little bit positive, optimistic, and pro-active and do things a little bit differently for once?
At the beginning of this discussion people suggested that disco is dying slowly because there's nothing new to the game. Partially, they are right. However, PoBs are new things but they're not enough, it seems. So, I have a suggestion: start working with a dynamic lore (something like Clan Wars in World of Tanks). Territorial battles and all kinds of events moderated by a team of admins and where only the official factions can take part.
Organize them daily, or at least every weekend and you'll give people something to play for (except grinding credits for the next battleship or carrying supplies to their station). And make the results visible to everyone as in game news and forum announcements. You can even make a map to show the modifications. "This week, Gallic forces were defeated in Manchester and the eastern part of the system was secured. Grids # # # and # now belong to the Liberty Navy."
Just an observation from my brief time on the server, but after a (abeit quick) look in the official factions thread, it appears that an individual is typecast into a specific role. In addition, there appears to be a great deal of rules, rigid structure, and limited RP potential.
Where as with an Indy, you can RP however you want to as long as it stays within the parameters of your tag. This especially gives a new player more of a open ended type of RP versus a rigidly structured one.
I created a Corsair character with the intent of possibly joining an official faction, but after looking at the ones available from my brief reads, I haven't made up my mind yet. Perhaps when I actually take the time and fully read the available info on the official factions I will eventually make up my mind on what to do. But as it stands now, I am having a lot of fun RP'ing an indy. Just my 2 cents.
(01-02-2014, 10:41 PM)Mímir Wrote: Not me, but ask in general. I already wrote my pov as a casual gamer, but I am completely sure there are other players out there who would be suitable to join a faction but don't for various reasons.
It would be better to ask them about those rather than go "it must be because they want no restrictions, don't care for roleplay, and don't speak english - admins pls punish" and then slip back into faction in-activity, right? I mean how about being a little bit positive, optimistic, and pro-active and do things a little bit differently for once?
Hello?
The direction of this mod has been indie oriented for the last... 3 updates?
So much positive that it got negative.
<3
[8:32:45 PM] Dusty Lens: Oh no, let me get that. Hello? Oh it's my grandma. She says to be roleplay.
[12:12:00] Traxit: this is smut stop
(01-02-2014, 10:48 PM)Dacul Wrote: At the beginning of this discussion people suggested that disco is dying slowly because there's nothing new to the game. Partially, they are right. However, PoBs are new things but they're not enough, it seems. So, I have a suggestion: start working with a dynamic lore (something like Clan Wars in World of Tanks). Territorial battles and all kinds of events moderated by a team of admins and where only the official factions can take part.
Organize them daily, or at least every weekend and you'll give people something to play for (except grinding credits for the next battleship or carrying supplies to their station). And make the results visible to everyone as in game news and forum announcements. You can even make a map to show the modifications. "This week, Gallic forces were defeated in Manchester and the eastern part of the system was secured. Grids # # # and # now belong to the Liberty Navy."