Discussion: Ammo-based Cloaks

[Jayce]

"Transports are made for..."

No. You're going to stop right there.

That line of thinking is exactly what is going to ruin this mod.

"X can only do Y thing." It removes any creativity from the mod, and makes it stagnant and boring. People like you are killing Disco.

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[Trogdor]

Like I said, I'm not saying it should go away entirely. But really, man? An hour? I'm for extending cloak times and even I think that's excessive @_@

And I know what you're saying, but it's a little hard for me to see



and suspend my disbelief enough to think its a

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[Zayne Carrick]

Trogdor, Jayce, what kind of nerf you're speaking about?

As for light cloak-the only one can be used for escape, it's maximum capacity was even buffed. Currently heavy bombers have 1 minute, after update - even LFs will be able to cloak for 100 seconds. But... here's a problem-any snub with cloak will be able to escape fight, when he'll start loosing-cloaking time is less than shield regenration time. While it wasn't big problem in bomber vs bomber fights - you will end up SNACing/SNACed anyway. Perhaps increasing charging time to 16-20 seconds will fix that.

Medium one- well, my cau8 Vidar have 2 minutes of cloaking time. And since you can't use heavier cloaks for escape, you won't sacrifice armor for additional time. Ambush means overpowering opponent(if we are not speaking about instaing snubs), you can't overpower same class without proper armor.

So, time compared to generic cau8 800 cargospace cruiser buffed, additional classes like Battlecruisers and Gunboats added. Gunboats still should sacrifice armor to mount it.

Heavy cloak will have 6,5 minutes in cloak, more than enough to fly 130k invisible.

The only ship class that will truly suffer from change-"surveillance" ships, which can be fixed by introducing special survey ship.

[Vrabcek]

Cloaks don't require so much charging, it should even work in just 5 Seconds if you have the necessary energy source ready on board.

God have mercy with our souls...

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[Jayce]

Like I said, I'm not saying it should go away entirely. But really, man? An hour? I'm for extending cloak times and even I think that's excessive @_@

And I know what you're saying, but it's a little hard for me to see



and suspend my disbelief enough to think its a

Too bad




can't mount a cloak.

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[Lonely_Ghost]

The only ship class that will truly suffer from change-"surveillance" ships, which can be fixed by introducing special survey ship.

The idea is actualy cool enough. Ship with very limited combat ability, pretty large like Mjolnir, but with nomad type cloak.

There are should be some snubs models left without attention, which could be introduced in such role.

[Misfit]

...but with nomad type cloak.

Or just have a big ship with a big cargo hold, but has no fighting capability. If people decide they want to trade with it they'll have no defenses.

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[SnakThree]

DELETE

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[Misfit]

...but with nomad type cloak.

Or just have a big ship with a big cargo hold, but has no fighting capability. If people decide they want to trade with it they'll have no defenses.

Zoner Whale.

Yeah kinda but not a Zoner whale. It makes sense as a recon ship.

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[St.Denis]

No there doesn't. Not any more than there were refunds when the hellfire legion broke up and they all lost their caps.

And I disagree.. Transports were made for hauling cargo (hence, transport) from point A to point B, not for being giant fuel tanks for an onboard device. I'm not saying we should take away their ability to use cloaks, but I don't think they should be able to cloak ten+ times longer than any other ship.

5kers cannot cloak as they don't have a CD hard point.

I cannot see why you disagree with some ships being able to cloak for a long time. It isn't as though they are a major threat to anybody in a fight. I could see your point if they were major fighting ships.

As for what ships are designed for, in their original concept, man changes things so it means that they adapt them for something else.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/De_Havilland_Comet

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hawker_Siddeley_Nimrod

Have a look at these two links to see what man does. The second one is what I have based my liner on.

I still can't see why, with OP's suggestion, that a snub would have the same cost, of batteries, as a Battleship and only be cloaked a quarter of the same time.

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