Yes. That's what we intend. Well we always intended that, but apparently the lack of more IDs was a little block in our RP. We try to break those limitations but not to make absurdities.
Rudimentary creatures of blood and flesh, you touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding. - Sovereign
I will withhold my judgement until I meet you ingame.
Others should follow that mentality.
If we start shooting down new factions and groups with ''what if'' arguments, we might end up with only having the old, half-dead and stagnant ones.
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So, using Order ID makes you Order. It just does. If you want to not be Order, use another ID. Pirate, Freelancer... I actualy made a faction like this once, that wanted to cover the whole of sirius from Nomads. ORDO|. Pirate ID suited me as I could kill anyone who stood in my way.
Moreover, you want to use Order gear? Like, Osiris and Resheph? And not be Order? You know, to use those ships, you have to be Order or allied with special permission to use them. If you do not have the permission, you will be targeted and shot down by Order agents.
I like how you think of it, but using Order stuff and ID and not being Order... that just does not work.
[16:30:04] Silv - Dave Synk: if we are presented by something else, we'd freely choose it.
[16:30:45] Silv - Dave Synk: We are not obliged by it's own ideals and goals. I can make a very strong write up on how to explain how I got all the Cerberus assets if I have to. And support will be. We always had non-Order support. Even from the Core.
[16:35:15] Silv - Dave Synk: and how will we use order ships ? xD ntz ntz
[16:35:16] Silv - Dave Synk: not well.
[16:54:31] Silv - Dave Synk: Cerberus will not take orders from The Order High Command
(06-22-2014, 02:20 PM)Dave.Synk Wrote:
CERBERUS
Introduction:
Presumably this goal to be achieved, Cerberus exploited their allegiance with the Order to pursue more the mysteries and secrets of the K’Hara. Dave Synk was the only one to believe that humankind could establish a peaceful relationship with the notorious Slomon K’Hara race and put an end to all atrocities between the two races.
After a long period of absence, Cerberus is re-organized again and their role within Sirius will reach far beyond their initial goals. With more support and with a greater cause, Cerberus will take it’s title as Vanguards of Mankind.
Description:
Cerberus is a para-military black-ops group, affiliated with the Order but independent in their actions. Capable of maintaining and building their own vessels located in a remote system, Cerberus reaches and spreads in various vital locations in Sirius, to be capable of maintaining a direct supervision of the events that occur Sirius-wide.
Faction Right 2. Official player factions have authority over players of the same NPC affiliation, as long as RP justification is provided. This authority applies in forums and in-game, and applies to player faction diplomacy, and strategic and tactical direction, however, exercise of that authority, on the forums and in game, is restricted to official faction members with the rank of the official faction leader and second in command(s) of the faction. The authority may be exercised through the use of in-game in-RP orders, which, if not obeyed, can result in in-game in-RP consequences (arrest, court martial, and even "lethal" force in extreme circumstances). Official player factions cannot, under any cicrumstances, require another player to follow non-canon RP if that player doesn't want to. In case of IDs with multiple official factions, this right is nullified and cannot be used by any of the factions.
(01-25-2009, 10:11 PM)Order Overwatch Wrote:
The Order is a paramilitary organization dedicated...
...to the defeat of the Nomads and defence of Humanity within Sirius.
...
Objectives and methods
- Detection and Elimination of aliens within Sirius sector.
- Detection and Elimination of Humans infested, sympathizing or working for the aliens.
- Ensuring that Nomad Technology is not allowed to get into the wrong hands.
- Continued development and understanding of Nomad technology.
...
Diplomacy
The Order diplomacy may be divided into few books, however let's keep it simplier...
...
At War:
Bounty Hunter's Guild Core
Nomads, K'Hara
Every infected person.
Outcasts
Very well. Your point being ? I respect your idealism about bounding over the ruleset. However, when it comes to Roleplay there might be a lot to discuss. And last time I remembered, Cerberus NEVER, but NEVER, had pathetic attempts at RP projects and ideas, without working properly for it. Because of such acts like yours, I left for 2 years, because I was considering this a direct herassment, actually going more personally, because Cerberus expands what some others tend to hold.
My ideal with Cerberus was and is, to expand the limitations that are present. The RP must evolve, it is a natural story. Events occur and develop.
Again, you did not request permission from me to post from Skype my personal idea and opinion about this entire situation.
Secondly, people like you, tend to ruin the RP ideas of the others. Role-playing as defined, it is an impersonation of a fictional character that develops similar to a natural one. As in real life, events occur that can change several conditions. If you impose limitations(game limitations or idealistic limitation) the RP is ruined. And I can concur that you attempt to ruin the RP of others by abusing the Faction Rights against some people who have different perspective and approaches of this said content we discuss.
From my point of view, this is a desperate call when people with potent imaginative talent can create more mature stories,events, RP.
I won't say anything else. Let the others judge right as needed. You can find me on skype if you want to discuss more of said "issues". By I think I made my point.
Rudimentary creatures of blood and flesh, you touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding. - Sovereign
I never said that we are against the Order completely. If we were, we wouldn't be around their systems for a long time. We just have different perspectives and goals. We hope that in time we become more and more independent as a faction, so we do not depend on others under these kind of circumstances.
Rudimentary creatures of blood and flesh, you touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding. - Sovereign
It is not about crushing RP ideas, it is about using Order ID and Order tech while not listening to the Order High Command. They can do all they want, they can be allied with the Order and they can dance with nomads while listening to russian music, I do not care what their RP is... but if you want to use Order assets, you have to listen to Order Overwatch.
It is easy, they want to use Order capital ships. Those are made in Omicron 100, Order Guard system. If you wish to buy an Order capital ship, you must go to the shipyard. InRP wise, Order Guard would hunt and kill any ship that is not permited to be in the Omicron-100 system.
So, Cerberus must do one of those things:
1) Be part of the Order secondary fleet (indie) and try to get more freedom from the Order Overwatch, try to do all what they want to do.
2) Use another ID and do whatever the hell they want and ask for permissions from Order Overwatch to use our tech or enter our systems.
Do not get mad about us, nobody is shit-talking your RP. But having Order stuff while not being Order does not work, there is no way that you would even get close to Order shipyards, I am not even talking about getting the ship itself. Order stuff belongs to Order, that is how it is. So do not get mad on the head of the Order if he does not want to give his stuff to some random non-order group.