hahaha i guess dublin is grn space now :)

[Vredes]

Okay go do your paperwork. justifying idiocy and anti-entertaining behavior. For me, I don't even know why did I even have to return to disco. Nostalgia gone now, time to leave the train. Go have fun with the 27 players online.

[Omi]

If you really want me to walk you through everything that's wrong with your previous couple of posts regarding Molly-GRN 'conspiracies' and the supposed lack of jumphole usage by house militaries, as well as the numerous other baseless accusations and inaccuracies you've merrily outlined, just say so and I'll be only too happy to help.

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[Thunderer]

I think that Dame should be rebuilt, but outside of the fields. Let's give pirates a chance. I haven't flown my Bowex Shire for a long time. Bowex hasn't flown for a long time.

On the other hand, I disagree with the offensive manner in which some GRN members decided to reveal their latest achievement. Overall, the offensive manner those members use for discussion. I believe that a won argument is the one after which both sides are satisfied.

I think that five pages of throwing stones and sometimes softer, but quite worse things, at each other, over a trifle, is a bit far gone.

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[Grail]

RP justifications can be OORP justification also, agree. But when someone goes by "hey, i want to pirate and the miners have a pob near a field, lets blow up the pob, but not to pirate them" its kinda weird. When you have some motivation just because you have a preconcept idea about something it doesnt mean you are right.

When GRN activity is as low as some minutes per char, what are the reasons just to log and blow a pob? Why did the Mollies say they had blow up Dame - or took the credits for it - when was GRN to do so ?

Why is there a no shoot agreement between Mollies and GRN when the first are trying to fight a Queen and not a king?

GRN zoi Dublin, ok. Jumping a fleet to take down a civilian depot throught a JH is weird.

What is done is done. Dublin was almost an empty system. Well, keep it empty... Keep your activity so high to justify your OORP motivations.

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[Vredes]

If you really want me to walk you through everything that's wrong with your previous couple of posts regarding Molly-GRN 'conspiracies' and the supposed lack of jumphole usage by house militaries, as well as the numerous other baseless accusations and inaccuracies you've merrily outlined, just say so and I'll be only too happy to help.

I want a change in RM ID. Had long since our last MND Ided 51st came to rape NY and I want to see turtles as well.
Why should GRN go so deep in hostile space and RM should not? RM wont almost every single battle vs LN official and unofficial, why should they lose their gates?
I dont understand half of the current events, maybe because there is nothing to understand, they are highly illogical and mainly ooRP.

[Vredes]

Maybe this thread should be moved out of the flood section.

[Vredes]

Also, not that I am against the destruction of a player base. if you could do it through forum RP, with a date and so. That would have given a chance for a proper defense, a good battle maybe. It would have been very fun, if it would have happen.
One more thing I AM NOT AGAINST MOLLYS, as a member of the former RF and the owner of couple coalition/hessian/molly indies, I've had a lot of cooperation with the mollys in the past in game, and some in forum RP. As for the GRN they deserve a sanction, and I bet that wasnt the official GRN(and I say bet, so that you wont assume that I am making up conspiracies again). I remember an year ago they kept everything inRP, when the tau war with the colonials was a very exciting moment of disco's timeline.

[Omi]

I really don't see how this is causing so much confusion.

Gallia is at war with Bretonia.

Dame Street Castle was a Bretonian lawful base in a Bretonian system one jump away from the primary staging ground of the largest invasion fleet Sirius has ever seen.

It turns out that the above combination of circumstances didn't lend itself well to a healthy POB incubation environment.

This would not have happened if Dame Street Castle were, say, a GMS or IMG base (both of which get bonuses for mining Gold Ore in Dublin). In the case of the GMS base, of course, you would have then had to worry about BAF| and co, rather than me, and then perhaps all the posts in this thread would be something for Bret to clean up rather than my beleaguered self.

You (i.e. Grail) keep prattling on about GRN| having low activity, but then seem to suggest that sieging a POB (something that, you know, requires us to get in game to generate said activity) is something we should be actively avoiding. I doubt you wouldn't have objected if GRN| had racked up the tracker hours by escorting miners in the Graves Asteroid Field. Maybe it's all a matter of perspective, hm?

Why should GRN go so deep in hostile space and RM should not? RM wont almost every single battle vs LN official and unofficial, why should they lose their gates?

in-game combat prowess =/= canon

Also, not that I am against the destruction of a player base. if you could do it through forum RP, with a date and so.

This is a recipe for a no-holds-barred cap fight with a base in the background, not a base siege. If I wanted to fight Discovery's entire Dunkirk squad, this is what I would have done. Unfortunately, that isn't what I wanted; I wanted to kill a POB.

As for the GRN they deserve a sanction

Please point out exactly which aspect of GRN's part in Dame Street Castle's deconstruction you believe was against the server rules, and I'll do my best to alleviate your concerns.

I believe that a won argument is the one after which both sides are satisfied.

I'd love to know where you have your arguments, because I don't think that's generally how these things work.

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[Lythrilux]

Oh POBs. You generate so much drama.

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[Sabru]

Oh POBs. You generate so much drama.

dont forget butthurt and tears.

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