Piracy

[Karst]

Obviously it depends on the pirate's roleplay and who they're pirating, but aside from that.

The absolute maximum a trader can make from one haul is 70 000 000 for a freighter shield, gunless 5ker hauling premium scrap to Alpha.

A more realistic trader hauling a regular ore makes, let's say, 4700*9600 = 45 120 000

A non-ore trader on a medium-long trip makes maybe 4700*2900 = 13 630 000

Back in the day, the good old "2milordai" was a reasonable approximation of a reasonable demand. Piracy was high enough that meeting more than one on a single trip wasn't unrealistic, and profit margins were noticeably lower.
With the money traders now make and the maybe 0.2 pirate encounters per trade run, 2 million is nothing for any trader.

Every pirate has to decide for themselves how much of that profit they feel is reasonable to take, but there's nothing wrong with the pirate wanting to actually make money.

I don't see why pirates need to turn into beggars, weighing their demand like "oh, I mustn't cut into the trader's profits too much, I'm just going to ask a very small amount so they'll actually pay".
(Most) pirates are selfish, and that's fine.
Of course like Jack said, if you're going to make a very high demand, offering a proportional amount of RP in return will keep the mood good between both players.


All that having been said, a huge amount of traders won't stop, won't talk except for unintelligible oorp gibberish, and won't pay regardless of how low the demand is ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Such is the life of a pirate.

Edit: Also, Mimir's post is a very good analysis.

[...] some players have a real issue with the piracy aspect of this game on what seems like a deep personal level (maybe it's the epeen thing, that they automatically and incorrectly interpret all piracy as dick waving and then start waving theirs?).

Quoted for ultimate truth.

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[SnakThree]

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[Highland Laddie]

Cargo piracy is the best. And...seeing as you need a transport to do it properly, it puts you more on an equal footing with whatever transports you intend to rob.

[SnakThree]

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[Stefz]

I prefer stripping their regens off of them, for the sake of lulz.

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[FynnMcScrap]

Im mostely Trader, and I have jet to set up a pirate or terrorist, so I am biased. But :
I often enjoy getting pirated. If done well its more than worth my while, and I even give gladly.
But on the other hand :

Dont get to greedy. I might take the time to try and *flee* , only to spend even more money on a bounty.
Its happened before. Im not in here for money, but I will take no shit just because somebody believes Im a cashcow.

Sometimes there are Pirates I see as a sort of bucaneer, as swashbuckler anti- heroes. They even get a tip about police sometimes, or I enjoy buying a safe passage for half price by telling jokes. Fine ! And well worth my time.
~ And Kudos, Dear ! We will meet again ;-) ~

We are in here for fun, and if somebody insists on getting his kick out of shooting, so be it. Enough people around who love to hunt for money. So I recon the circle turns and turns...

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FynnMcScrap, Foreman of Tinkers Haven

[Karst]

Cargo piracy is the best. And...seeing as you need a transport to do it properly, it puts you more on an equal footing with whatever transports you intend to rob.

Yo what? Transports kill other transports quicker than anything short of a cruiser. And you'll only be on equal footing if your own transport is small.

Purple Goddess Sabre, three debs: 50k
Solaris/Pulse/Razor Imperator: 30k
Basics Salvager (essentially identical to a light core Basics gunboat): 20k
SNAC-only bombers: 50-60k (approximation. Depending on the exact loadout and the attacker's timing, it can change, but is unlikely to exceed or go below those numbers by much)
Scylla: ~15k
Charon Percheron: ~15k

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[Highland Laddie]

Pirate transport can output more damage over time than most bombers making this ship even more deadly. So I am not sure if it puts trader in better odds.

Cargo piracy is the best. And...seeing as you need a transport to do it properly, it puts you more on an equal footing with whatever transports you intend to rob.

Yo what? Transports kill other transports quicker than anything short of a cruiser. And you'll only be on equal footing if your own transport is small.

Or if you have a Battle Transport. Also consider from the person being pirated that it's easier to hit an attacking transport than a Bomber. So, I see that as more of an equal footing.

[SnakThree]

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[Highland Laddie]

Okay then. *shrug*