5th Fleet - Feedback

[Siren Stone]

Please know something before speaking. This is metagaming in it's purest form. They didn't provide evidence to anyone. And first off, the evidence is not even theirs. And yeah, it is not new seeing PLR and their members coming to wtfpwn JM. (:

Also, having own ID does not mean they are not junkers. JM="Junker" Marauders for a reason. Also, do you say that 101st are not outcasts?

I'm not going to say anything about whatever evidence there seems to be because I know nothing about it, as for the PLR coming to "wtfpwn JM" as you say, the only reason we attacked Beaumont in the first place was do to the JM not taking the proper measures to get consent and pay the proper taxes that the PLR place on any bases built in our space. They said nothing, we found out, we took measures against the blatant disregard for our relationship as allies, neutral or otherwise.

As for having their own ID, yes, it does make them different than regular Junker ID'ed Junkers. The JM ID dictates rules and such that differ from the Junker ID thus meaning that they , the JM are their own faction thus meaning they are not truly the same as the faction of which their origins reside.

We are a Junker faction. That makes us Junkers. We're called The Junker Marauders. Lets not try to play ditzy here.

Names alone do not dictate your treatment by others, The PLR (Padua Liberty Rogues do not get treated like the "Liberty" Navy or the Liberty "Rogues" We are our own faction, even if our origins reside with another. your faction, the JM have their own ID, their own Lore, their own rules, code of conduct, and from wnhat I rememebr from the initial creation of the JM, are Junkers that pirate for profit. I'm nbot sure about you, but this "Ditzy" Discoite over here can tell the difference between a red sports car and a blue SUV, they both get you paces, but they have very different uses.

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[Siren Stone]

And I really, really must say...

Isn't it extremely weird that an RM battleship decided to dock on Spire, of all places? Furthermore, isn't it also extremely coincidental that a Junker was waiting and present at the time to take a screenshot of the docking?

Why does Beaumont Spire even allow Rheinland Military vessels to dock in the first place, this is starting to smell fishy as well as getting good. Do tell Lyth, why -do -the Junker Marauders allow the Rheinland Military ships docking rights on a liberty approved, and allied base in the heart of Liberty? I for one as well as no doubt a hand full of highly interested parties would love to know the reasons for this.

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[t0l]

And I really, really must say...

Isn't it extremely weird that an RM battleship decided to dock on Spire, of all places? Furthermore, isn't it also extremely coincidental that a Junker was waiting and present at the time to take a screenshot of the docking?

Why does Beaumont Spire even allow Rheinland Military vessels to dock in the first place, this is starting to smell fishy as well as getting good. Do tell Lyth, why -do -the Junker Marauders allow the Rheinland Military ships docking rights on a liberty approved, and allied base in the heart of Liberty? I for one as well as no doubt a hand full of highly interested parties would love to know the reasons for this.

Open docking, iirc. Happened after someone used an LR| tag instead of an LR- tag and used that as justification for shooting the base.

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[Lythrilux]

Chances are he's getting paid something for turning over the picture. If not, then I'm not sure what the point of it is. Sure, it might be a grudge, but it might just be something that happened so he turned it in.

So you don't even know if he is actually getting paid? I thought you were meant to be on top of this whole thing, Vendetta.

And I really, really must say...

Isn't it extremely weird that an RM battleship decided to dock on Spire, of all places? Furthermore, isn't it also extremely coincidental that a Junker was waiting and present at the time to take a screenshot of the docking?

I'm not on top of things. I'm just there as an adviser. Also, The Junker was leaving. Don't let paranoia twist the situation in your favor. I'm sure you know that stranger things have happened here.

Considering all the drama I have endured recently, it's legitimate for me to make assumptions here. You and the 5th don't have evidence to prove otherwise.

Please know something before speaking. This is metagaming in it's purest form. They didn't provide evidence to anyone. And first off, the evidence is not even theirs. And yeah, it is not new seeing PLR and their members coming to wtfpwn JM. (:

Also, having own ID does not mean they are not junkers. JM="Junker" Marauders for a reason. Also, do you say that 101st are not outcasts?

I'm not going to say anything about whatever evidence there seems to be because I know nothing about it, as for the PLR coming to "wtfpwn JM" as you say, the only reason we attacked Beaumont in the first place was do to the JM not taking the proper measures to get consent and pay the proper taxes that the PLR place on any bases built in our space.

Being in PLR myself once, I was told multiple times that "Texas isn't in our ZoI" even by you yourself Chrono. I really doubt contacting PLR would've done anything, as I've been told that PLR will happily ignore a comm from the base owner, and destroy a base if they feel like it.

They said nothing, we found out, we took measures against the blatant disregard for our relationship as allies, neutral or otherwise.

OR
Alte decided to start some sort of ooRP grudge war with me and JM, and then the whole Rogue drama (which is still going on, thanks to Vendetta and co.) kicked off. Fortunately, I had people ready to fight back against his silly grudge-like oppression.

As for having their own ID, yes, it does make them different than regular Junker ID'ed Junkers. The JM ID dictates rules and such that differ from the Junker ID thus meaning that they , the JM are their own faction thus meaning they are not truly the same as the faction of which their origins reside.

Our ID is the exact same as the Junker ID, except for a different tech chart and rephacks we needed. If JM was their own faction, we'd just be the Marauders. We wouldn't fly Junker ships, help administrate Junker bases, assist other Junkers and do general Junker things (helloooo, we scrap mine).

We are a Junker faction. That makes us Junkers. We're called The Junker Marauders. Lets not try to play ditzy here.

Names alone do not dictate your treatment by others, The PLR (Padua Liberty Rogues do not get treated like the "Liberty" Navy or the Liberty "Rogues" We are our own faction, even if our origins reside with another.

Oh boy, do I have some news for you: You're a Rogue faction.

your faction, the JM have their own ID, their own Lore, their own rules, code of conduct,

Yes but,
that doesn't not make us Junkers. The JM lore is actually written within the inside of the normal Junker lore, because the two characters who made JM were and still are Junkers themselves.

and from what I remember from the initial creation of the JM, are Junkers that pirate for profit.

So what? The Junker ID has always let people pirate for profit. By your logic, you'd be saying that Congress aren't Junkers because they don't pirate.

I'm not sure about you, but this "Ditzy" Discoite over here can tell the difference between a red sports car and a blue SUV, they both get you paces, but they have very different uses.

But they're still both cars, are they not?

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[Lythrilux]

And I really, really must say...

Isn't it extremely weird that an RM battleship decided to dock on Spire, of all places? Furthermore, isn't it also extremely coincidental that a Junker was waiting and present at the time to take a screenshot of the docking?

Why does Beaumont Spire even allow Rheinland Military vessels to dock in the first place, this is starting to smell fishy as well as getting good. Do tell Lyth, why -do -the Junker Marauders allow the Rheinland Military ships docking rights on a liberty approved, and allied base in the heart of Liberty? I for one as well as no doubt a hand full of highly interested parties would love to know the reasons for this.

I asked the same question myself. I've been told that it's a limitation with POBs: factions are either Allied or Hostile to a base. There's no friendly or nodock. The fault lies within the POB plugin itself in that case. It doesn't work like a normal Junker base does.
If this isn't the case though, then I can only assume someone has tampered with the tags list. But I don't assume that, because it's ludicrous. Also, what Tal said.
Also, Texas isn't the heart of Liberty.

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[Stone21]

Texas IS the heart of Liberty together with New York, California and Colorado !
Call systems like: Ontario, Minnesota and New Hampshire, liberty border systems and NOT Texas

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Texas is Liberty's house space , see Server Rules , " Ships & Systems Classification " . http://discoverygc.com/forums/showthread.php?tid=2334 . Beaumont Spire is registered base , http://discoverygc.com/forums/showthread...#pid184926 . But if this base used by groups / individuals , who is enemy / baned in Liberty space , this registration will be revoked on this reazon by Liberty's Government fast .

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[Lythrilux]

[19:48:02] Rohj Teerin (Jeremy): LNS indies don't have to have permission
[19:48:24] Rohj Teerin (Jeremy): Liberty Laws only require LPI-, [LN], and =LSF=
[19:48:29] Rohj Teerin (Jeremy): You can tell them that

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[Psyentific]

Jesus **** what is everyone so assblasted about?

The 5th Fleet saw a Rheinland Military ship dock at a Junker Marauder station. Okay, sure.
So they blow up the station.

No, no! Goddammit, no! You don't just casually blow up a space station, war or not. There's proper channels for exactly this kind of thing. Post a Comms thread, ask the JM what's up, see if someone overlooked something (oh look, it's open docking), and if the JMs are malicious, as opposed to neglegent or incompetent, then wipe them off the map.

Remember guys, War Crimes are bad, don't do them.

Don't avoid the swear filter again. It's not cool ~Snoopy

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[Lythrilux]

Just to let everyone know the drama has been sorted now. We can all go back to playing the game.

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