Some people fly FL ID, Pirate ID, Rogue ID, Hacker, Outcast ID in that group. I can't order any of the indie unlawful what to fly or how to fly.
Tell me any of the |GNG tagged ship, who didn't satisfy the Engagement Notices.
I don't consider the "Killing the same official faction member who uses the same ID" as the rule breaking, unless it's done without any RP.
And also, go ahead... I'm looking forward to reading another funny announcement.
(12-23-2014, 07:32 PM)Tutashkhia Wrote: Some people fly FL ID, Pirate ID, Rogue ID, Hacker, Outcast ID in that group.
Because it gives you access to a very wide tech limit. From ascos and Corsair Gbs, to Scyllas and OC dreads.
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(12-23-2014, 07:13 PM)titanbot Wrote: It's unfortunately that such a case is basically power playing, it's a shame that our Administrators aren't really knocking some sense into abusive official guilds.
This is why I pointed out double standards, but someone just told me to shut up about it. Good job in losing players - as some users here and stuff. When official factions break rules, you are okay with that. But when unofficial faction does the same, learning from the official factions, the hell breaks loose.
You are not even hipocritical here. You are way worse than that, at least in this matter.
Critizising the GNG group for their tech use is not really honest. GNG had to untag their Scyllas (bc 1 ID per tag). They did that.
And they can hardly control which IDs join them. The mix on the opposing side is often colorful as well.
Factions all over Disco have used broken/op equipment and have aimed for op IDs.
Rule breaches are as abundant on lawful as on the unlawful side in my opinion. The difference is: the GNG guys do not mind it, while the opposite side sees "the cancer" in the GNG guys and collects sanction material.
And: You can be mad at GNG for using broken stuff and spamming insta loadouts, gank and and and... but you will not see them QQ, rage or hate when they get the megagank, get outgunned by op/broken stuff, etc.
I am not defending some of their poor choices, but it is rather obvious from my pov, that there are different ways of judging the same things. If GNG does them, they are bad. If others do it, it's no issue.
I'd find it sad if the only piracy group that can actually give a real fight (except the Lib-Rheinland fights and the weekly Bret-Gallia event) would disappear due to sanctionlancing.
(12-23-2014, 07:32 PM)Tutashkhia Wrote: Some people fly FL ID, Pirate ID, Rogue ID, Hacker, Outcast ID in that group. I can't order any of the indie unlawful what to fly or how to fly.
Tell me any of the |GNG tagged ship, who didn't satisfy the Engagement Notices.
I don't consider the "Killing the same official faction member who uses the same ID" as the rule breaking, unless it's done without any RP.
And also, go ahead... I'm looking forward to reading another funny announcement.
A poignant thing I noticed about your group when I encountered them in NB on my ship U 99. Was that there were both G tags and GNG tags in the same group, utilising different ids and using ships from different factions.
I even noticed 3 GNG ships one with a rogue ID and two others with Pirate ids those were flying brigand gbs and a hessian gb.
Now a lesson for you here is that a bad group that does not know how to Rp is one that utilizes multiple ids under the same or similar tag in order to gain access to the best pirate tech. This only means one thing your goal is not RP but PVP superiority.
You need fix your group quick or you may go the same way as RR or CCCP........
Hey, some players break rules, but they try their best to bring activity.
BAN WHOLE DAMN FACTION, DON'T EVEN TALK TO THEM IN THIS MATTER.
This is how I understand all the sanctions here. Good job, Administration. Good job.
Also, someone said:
Quote:I'd find it sad if the only piracy group that can actually give a real fight (except the Lib-Rheinland fights and the weekly Bret-Gallia event) would disappear due to sanctionlancing.
This. +1.
If someone wanted to report official faction, who'd get insulted and and hated? Not the official faction member, but a guy who reported them, God damn it.
Quote:And: You can be mad at GNG for using broken stuff and spamming insta loadouts, gank and and and... but you will not see them QQ, rage or hate when they get the megagank, get outgunned by op/broken stuff, etc.
Something something Liberty Navy something something ganking.
Quote:Rule breaches are as abundant on lawful as on the unlawful side in my opinion. The difference is: the GNG guys do not mind it, while the opposite side sees "the cancer" in the GNG guys and collects sanction material.
Instead of sanctioning it, dear Administration, talk it DAMN OUT. It's "not my business and I'll sanction then by default tactic." That's not even professional. That's a bungle.
Did someone EVEN POINTED OUT they use multiple IDs, instead of collecting sanction material? Anyone? One person? Please?
Kaiser, I don't need the authorities to handle my business. I'll keep running this group. For two reasons, I'll say right now. Furthermore, I've been drinking Kaiser beer for a long time already, really like that German thing man. (if i'm not wrong)
First off, 2 hours ago, there were no interests in joining the GNG. After the whole sanction threads and other threads about GNG some people showed their interests in joining this group. And that fact made me happy.Even though I'm not really gonna pick any of them up yet.
Secondly, the only person who has always been in the opposite team, Mr.Jack, talks the truth. I'll admit, I've always liked your wisdom Jack. You're included in those 2-3% of the community who can see some positive sides in all this sh***.
And the one who shows me the image where the GNG or G tagged player is using an OC dread, or OC cruiser will get a billion from me. I say my word.
You roll up to a pirate horde, and instantly you take notice of the tag and ID combination and start collecting material for a sanction, like wtf? Why not just play the damn game?
Would the actions and roleplay have been any different if they were all donning a Rogue or Outcast ID and the same tag? Who really cares?
You people are advocating for order for the sake of just order - that's a true fascist trait, and a real problem.