"I'm so superior and don't play a Zoner character, BTW here's what the Zoners should want, also lore should never deviate from vanilla because that would be bad."
"I'm so superior and don't play an Order character, BTW here's what the Order should get, also Roleplay should never deviate from ID because that would be bad."
"I'm so superior and don't play a Zoner character, BTW here's what the Zoners should want, also lore should never deviate from vanilla because that would be bad."
"I'm so superior and don't play an Order character, BTW here's what the Order should get, also Roleplay should never deviate from ID because that would be bad."
I don't play an Order character no, if Order wants to change their lore up that's fine, they don't want to be allied to Zoners, as evidenced by the vast raft of antizoner RP and the fact that there's Order leadership saying that they're fine with it then all well and good.
Also: Gameplay should never deviate from ID because server rules.
That alliance is still up. And no one ever broke server rules because of it. Just cuz some post say we can go to honshu and shoot stuff that does not mean we would go there and do it and get sanctioned... But, as everybody knows, if its a pursue that started inside your ZoI you can go there and do your job. No Id alowances broke there.
"I'm so superior and don't play a Zoner character, BTW here's what the Zoners should want, also lore should never deviate from vanilla because that would be bad."
Allow me to slow down so you'll actually understand my point.
Unless things are drastically otherwise, The Zoners are not a warlike entity. That means they would probably not want to fight if given the chance. Not fighting means that they'd negotiate a settlement if given a chance. I'll have to assume you know what a settlement is.
The Order, On the other hand is a xenophobic paranoid entity. Xenophobic stems from their hatred of the Nomads and all works related to them. Paranoia means they'll see those works pretty much anywhere. Pretty easy to see why they'd act irrationally towards allies now that I've spelled it out like that, yeah? Additionally, The Order is also pretty strapped for resources, manpower...you name it. They would not want to lose a fairly reliable supplier and a historically good arrangement.
Allow me to blow your mind.
Perhaps instead of screaming 'Axe the following from the Order ID and also mitigate The Order because I hate Golanski..." you can try to approach this logically. I'll be nice enough to spell it out for you. Both factions stand to lose from the state of affairs as dictated by the admin team. Either side can begin proceedings, and as Garrett has mentioned it has already begun over skype. Regardless of who begins the reconciliation iRP, it makes excellent logical sense for it to happen.
Weren't you the one who had to quit this community for a while because you were taking things too personally? I'd suggest you might be facing a relapse. Cool down and let the involved people sort it out.
(02-03-2015, 03:03 PM)Omicega Wrote: [color=#eb35be]See, now you're implying that Order is entirely dependent on the Zoners for literally everything.
Well. Corsairs anyone? It's always the same. 'Faction X is soooo screwed without Zoner help. So they can't attack them or they are dead'. We've had many discussions like this in the Omicrons
For long history of zonerzonerzoner various groups of Zoners had so many conflicts with different groups/regions. I just don't get it, why current one is different to others? Why admin team took seriously conflict with ZA? They never been a really part of Zoners, only if to say in technical terms. Much more like Zoners asked for help against the ZA, as they blocked Omicron-74 and its raised alot of qq(aswell I'll remind when all three official zoner factions asked to ft5 ZA, admins denied it).
So, next. TAZ-Order conflict. Are other parties were involved? I don't think so. As any other colflict it should be dealt between 2 sides. But not whole generic faction + the rest official factions. Admins may be not satisfied as its started, due to "special effects" just like nomad tech. But C'MON, be honest - how old conflcits were started? BECAUSE you are ZONER. That's was enough.
All of the time of being thee official factions OSI/TAZ/(ZTC-Omicroners-Phoenix) we had different policy and different view on same things. That's the freedom of Zoners, a thing which attracts players. No one ever tried to affect on this. So what exactly is wrong with this conflict? Each side in Omicrons pewd Zoners(Corsairs, Outcasts, Hunters, Order), we dealt with it. But what is daily business for Omicrons its nono for Taus Zoners.
You are ruin game play of Omicron Zoners/Phoenix, this is completely against our lore and all what we had according to our past. Zoners are different to each other. That's the point why we has own IDs for long time, to rule own diplomacy and choose how to develop it.
(02-03-2015, 08:49 PM)Rodent Wrote: Allow me to slow down so you'll actually understand my point.
<rubbish>
Oh no, I understood your point perfectly.
Problem is this, the Order has been RPed as this all powerful superpolice for Sirius by the current adminstration, they in actuality shouldn't hold nearly a tenth of the power that they pretend they have, I view this as an opportunity for Zoners to remove one of the millstones around their neck, that being an old and worthless institution like the Order that in 99% of cases attacks people on "suspicion of being a nomad" or some such rubbish and it turns out to be false.
To be crude the Order has waved it's dong around long enough, it's time for people to start pointing at it and laughing at how insignificant it actually is.
Oh, and
(02-03-2015, 08:49 PM)Rodent Wrote: Weren't you the one who had to quit this community for a while because you were taking things too personally?
No, I quit disco for a while because I was about to have a coronary from Golanski metagaming like a pro and getting away with it, now the chickens are coming home to roost and I welcome them.
