(03-01-2015, 06:56 PM)Garrett Jax Wrote: I've been a bit more active as an Admin this week, but if the community has a vote of no confidence for me, I will gladly step aside and leave the spot open for another to take.
Please don't. You're almost certainly the most approachable and communicative admin, and that's important.
(03-01-2015, 06:56 PM)Garrett Jax Wrote: I've been a bit more active as an Admin this week, but if the community has a vote of no confidence for me, I will gladly step aside and leave the spot open for another to take.
Don't,U are one of the better admins here. it'd be horrible place without u.
(03-01-2015, 06:56 PM)Garrett Jax Wrote: I've been a bit more active as an Admin this week, but if the community has a vote of no confidence for me, I will gladly step aside and leave the spot open for another to take.
Don't,U are one of the better admins here. it'd be horrible place without u.
This is a systemic issue. You guys need to realize the reason this place runs at all is because of money that for a long time Cannon just forked out every month. We could have the alternative where one owner/admin unilaterally decides everything be damned. In fact that is the way most servers run.
Its a gift cannons given a gift that while you all run your interpersonal skirmishes on, the vast silent majority get along and play on perfectly fine.
So im going to point the finger at everyone. If you think a certain person or group is the problem? its not its your problem ,not the servers problem.
long after whoever bans who or whoever rage quits this place will so go on willing cannon wants to keep paying for it and managing the donations. Your presence here is so insignificant its laughable. So do yourself a big fat favor right now and shut up, suck it up, and stop acting the center of the god damned universe.
This place runs on the "collective" efforts and volunteers. the fact we even have an update? volunteers
The fact you have THIS FORUM WORKING AT ALL.. volunteers.
You got a problem with a part of that collective you might need to realize that makes you the problem. Yes.. YOUR the problem. YOU are the minority. the door or the exit is on the top right. hit it and all your issues go away.
And you know how i know this is the damn fact?
the majority doesn't make threads.
the majority doesn't make polls
the majority does not give you notice.
they just trickle out... and silently leave.
they disappear.. and go away. and its the only hint you have that you managed to piss of everyone.
PS As an aside.. if you had any idea how many are here WITH means Thad love to buy or monetize disco as its own brand? use it to make money youd be surprised. id love to hire these admins and these devs and maybe a few more to make it Not a modification but a standalone. but the moment that happened youd be customers.. and then there would be a true cause to ignore your complaints, the bottom line. You dont want that here. you dont want to put anymore stress on these people.
cause you wont get a warning when its gone.
hell ill bet you dont even give a damn.
you just want the attention.. the attention of the mob. hell i better stop it might strike a nerve and ill get an anti huggie thread.
The evolution of the administration team, and the way in which they [are often forced] to operate, reflects directly upon the evolution of this server.
I had a few sanctions when I first started way back in the day. Haven't seen one in a couple years now. It's quite manageable to play within the rules.
That being said players who start to receive the attention of administrators are far more likely to have their behavior reviewed more thoroughly and can be the target of bias. This certainly leads to a snowballing effect, which can prove unfair to some.
That also being said, there are certainly a few players who seem to feel the need to continuously seek attention, and on a heavily-opinionated server such as this one, such a path is bound to garner you much hate. This isn't fair, but it's reality.
The problem is, People here are outright cruel to one another which is beyond me, the playground is so sparse already, who really wants an empty one to play in?
Rarely do people here seem to give two sh!ts about anyone who doesnt flying with them. Ill note anonymously, that I recently had issue with a player, and when cordially asked if I could discuss such with them in private, I was flipped the bird. If this is the way interactions and relationships are handled, there is little hope for this server's future.
At the very least in my own case, while i can openly admit to disagreeing strongly with Lyth's recent Core methodology [which aint cool anymore since everyone is hating on him in an excessive manner], I have tried to pose some constructive arguments and avoid deriding his character as a person. No matter how at odds, the person on the other end is still a person, and deserves that respect. That sort of attitude/kindness/respect/whatever is not prevalent here however, things get emotional and ugly fast, and people say outlandish things to slander one another.
Even if there exists people one might truly regard with 'disgust', the most effective method to dealing with such would be to elevate the gameplay around them, and force them to either match that or be identified as cancerous. At best, this results in an improvement of the quality all-around.
Regardless of whether or not a few people here shouldn't be here, it is the duty of the server to uphold a higher standard of gameplay, and people such as that will be strained out and easily noted.
What reason is there to continue contributing positively to a community if this isnt the attitude at hand? Most importantly, the quality of a leadership is most closely resemblant to the quality of those they lead.
Those who have complaints to make, go on ahead, it will make you feel better. It will not likely make massive change, that will only occur within the players themselves.
Just know that this server will only begin to return to its previous, greater state, when it has community members who would consciously make effort to do the same.
Over my time here....I have seen a few changes in the admin staff....but somehow it seems that it is always the same people doing all the crying. That there are conflicts of interest within Disco?....Sure there are, the key is probably in having people mature enough gaming wise to be able seperate the power and position of being an admin from their interest or objectives ingame.
(03-01-2015, 09:57 PM)HuggieSunrise Wrote: This is a systemic issue. You guys need to realize the reason this place runs at all is because of money that for a long time Cannon just forked out every month. We could have the alternative where one owner/admin unilaterally decides everything be damned. In fact that is the way most servers run.
Its a gift cannons given a gift that while you all run your interpersonal skirmishes on, the vast silent majority get along and play on perfectly fine.
So im going to point the finger at everyone. If you think a certain person or group is the problem? its not its your problem ,not the servers problem.
long after whoever bans who or whoever rage quits this place will so go on willing cannon wants to keep paying for it and managing the donations. Your presence here is so insignificant its laughable. So do yourself a big fat favor right now and shut up, suck it up, and stop acting the center of the god damned universe.
This place runs on the "collective" efforts and volunteers. the fact we even have an update? volunteers
The fact you have THIS FORUM WORKING AT ALL.. volunteers.
You got a problem with a part of that collective you might need to realize that makes you the problem. Yes.. YOUR the problem. YOU are the minority. the door or the exit is on the top right. hit it and all your issues go away.
And you know how i know this is the damn fact?
the majority doesn't make threads.
the majority doesn't make polls
the majority does not give you notice.
they just trickle out... and silently leave.
they disappear.. and go away. and its the only hint you have that you managed to piss of everyone.
PS As an aside.. if you had any idea how many are here WITH means Thad love to buy or monetize disco as its own brand? use it to make money youd be surprised. id love to hire these admins and these devs and maybe a few more to make it Not a modification but a standalone. but the moment that happened youd be customers.. and then there would be a true cause to ignore your complaints, the bottom line. You dont want that here. you dont want to put anymore stress on these people.
cause you wont get a warning when its gone.
hell ill bet you dont even give a damn.
you just want the attention.. the attention of the mob. hell i better stop it might strike a nerve and ill get an anti huggie thread.
One of the voices of reason right here, listen to it.
Admins are.... admins, there will be always hatred towards them because whatever they do will always have its two sides, be it sanctions or whatever else.
They're of course doing it in trying to preserve the server and keep it clean from cheats and violations alike (I'm not talking about bias or abuse as those are completely different matters), and of course the said cheaters and violators wouldn't like the admins, which is completely understandable since nobody likes to get sanctioned.
Also admins are humans as well, they do make mistakes.
Alright, so someone has no confidence in someone else. If you ain't business partners of family relatives then what? At the end of the day anyone is free to make their own mod/game/server with blackjack and hookers and run it in their own confidence to the eventual lack same confidence in them by others, because someone will, happens to be enough variety of folks.