Exiles ID + KNF ID

[SnakThree]

Again, repeating what I just told you from my years of experience here.

Allying = coordinating via private/group chat to shoot someone.
Allying =/= shooting the same target because it is worse enemy.

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[Tsuzumi Mori]

There can be no RP behind it.

In the eyes of the Kusari Exiles, the betrayal of the KNF to their god-Emperor is absolute and above all else, recent too. Thus, there can be no roleplay excuse to ally with them against anyone.

There can be RP behind it. Internal political matters might be sometimes put aside, if we have more lethal enemy that both interested sides share. Be it Outcasts, Dragons, GC or even Junkers.

Again, repeating what I just told you from my years of experience here.

Allying = coordinating via private/group chat to shoot someone.
Allying =/= shooting the same target because it is worse enemy.

I'll keep this advice to the heart then and share it with mates then. Thank you.

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[pillow]

toris
why did you 'leave'
and then make another account
when everyone still knows its you
are you drunk
??


Back on topic.
No. It's stupidly illogical for the Navals to ally with Exiles against anyone. Reason? See the post above this one.

Edit:
See the post made by SpaceTime.
Ninjas. <_<

[Pammy]

I totally agree with Toris. True, Kusari Exiles is a terrorist faction in the eyes of Kusari Republic, however in the view of themselves, they are the defenders of the Emperor.

But in my opinion, it is slightly impossible to have a KNF-KE alliance. Once the son claims the throne, he is not willing to give the throne back to his father. So, making Kusari Exiles a quasi-lawful faction would be a better choice.

[Tsuzumi Mori]

toris
why did you 'leave'
and then make another account
when everyone still knows its you
are you drunk
??

I left forums and was close to leave Disco, but returned for 343 on leader's request. And this is my character's RP account, not my main account.

I don't want to be involved into other topics aside those connected to the faction I'm in, unrelated with all the flood, other faction topics and so on. This topic is pure RP question,

I hope this answers your curiosity.

Back on topic.
No. It's stupidly illogical for the Navals to ally with Exiles against anyone. Reason? See the post above this one.

Check up what Pammy wrote. Sure, it might be not the most loved relation, but you should keep in mind that both sides are practically Kusari Naval Forces. They both see Blood Dragons, Junkers, Outcasts and Golden Chrysantemums as enemies, so it would be logical to allow both to defend their home.

Also, Snak3's statement answers the question I've been making. Perhaps in the future such line might be added to completely make sure that neither side will bend ID rules for the logical reasons.

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[zslayern]

There can be no RP behind it.

In the eyes of the Kusari Exiles, the betrayal of the KNF to their god-Emperor is absolute and above all else, recent too. Thus, there can be no roleplay excuse to ally with them against anyone.

Isn't this "God Emperor" worship gone together with the Shogunate? Since it was the Shinto Japs that believed in that.

[Tsuzumi Mori]

There can be no RP behind it.

In the eyes of the Kusari Exiles, the betrayal of the KNF to their god-Emperor is absolute and above all else, recent too. Thus, there can be no roleplay excuse to ally with them against anyone.

Isn't this "God Emperor" worship gone together with the Shogunate? Since it was the Shinto Japs that believed in that.

Answer to this one: Shogunate is more a military state with main general (shogun) that is factual head of the state with Emperor as his "puppet", look at the Tokugawa Shogunate.

With the "restoration" of the Emperor in Kusari, the developers repeated the real life event, that is the Meiji Restoration in Japan, in which Shogunate was overthrown and Emperor was the head of the nation again - in short: shogun was no longer factual head of the state.

Since end Onin War (1467-1477) until the end of the Meiji Restoration (1868) in Japan, Emperors hadn't had much power in their hands, with shoguns taking the role of the head of the nation.

As for factual end of the Japanese god-emperor, it ceased in 1945 after WW2.

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[SpaceTime]

There can be RP behind it. Internal political matters might be sometimes put aside

You cannot call it an "internal political matter" the fact that your brothers-in-arms, betrayed their oath to the Emperor, betrayed their kin which was trapped between Gallia and Bretonia and now these honorless are the ones who "look after" your families that you left behind.

Again, the KNF betrayal in the eyes of Kusari Exiles is absolute and nothing can put it aside. We are talking about Kusari RP here, not Liberty.

[Tsuzumi Mori]

Again, the KNF betrayal in the eyes of Kusari Exiles is absolute and nothing can put it aside. We are talking about Kusari RP here, not Liberty.

I am aware how Kusari works, because I know a lot about Japanese history and how it worked in the past. While I agree on that KNF betrayed Emperor, it was decision of the High Command to introduce the coup - not all soldiers who simply followed orders. There is a "gi" rule, which says that no matter what, you are ought to be loyal to your (direct) superior - even though he might be wrong.


Nobunaga Oda exiled Yoshiteru Ashikaga because the latter plotted against him with other daimyo in Kyoto. Ieyasu Tokugawa overthrew the short-lived Toyotomi Imperial Line created by Hideyoshi Hashiba. Even if both things could be considered as wrong, their soldiers and generals had to follow and did that nonetheless.


Back to the topic, both sides' are claimed to be legal authority within Kusari, even if both do not agree with each other. Yet their main priority is to protect civilians and to preserve serenity, welfare and security of the Kusari and to fight outside and inside terrorism, piracy and threats. They both origin from the same roots, yet I agree they don't like each other. However, the feud between KNF and Blood Dragons is old and there's no matter if we speak about Imperial KNF or Republican KNF - while the internal affair between the latter is recent and I don't think both sides really want to fight against their brothers and sisters.

It's matter of following orders, both sides may hate each other, but one side have some respect for the loyality to the duties fulfilled by he other one.

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[Pancakes]

Not really, no. In fact, roleplay-wise the biggest threat to the Republic is the Exiles, I'd even expect KNF to shoot those down first.

Regardless, as this has happened in the past the routine (at least on KNF's side) is simple - we shoot the biggest threat currently, and even mid-fight might switch targets from one faction to anther if they become the bigger threat currently.