Well, the Core is the only lawful force in the Omicrons. They do just the same as Liberty Navy/Police, Kusari Nava Forces/Police, Bretonia Armed Forces/Police and Rheinland Militär/Polizei, just very, very extreme. Corsairs, as you are mainly playing one, are lore-wise not only a people of crimes, but also of cannibalism. Outcasts are doing the drug market, AI want to harvest all the ressources and SCRA wants to damage all the sirian forces - and Core sees all those guys helping the freeport. inRP, the action and reaction, aside from Jess' overreaction, are justified (more or less). There's nothing wrong with it.
I know, you and some of your friends visit Omicron Delta often for nomad farming, but you have to make yourself aware this system is of strong Core influence, because it's technically a Core system (bla bla bla but Order/Nomad/Zoners! bla bla bla - Core has just three systems: Rho is restricted and nearly nothing happens there, and the totally deplaced Capetown station in Omicron 94 is very hard to access, so it's also rare that something happens there, and that's why Core influence in Delta is very strong). And when you enter a system that is kept by a hostile-to-your-faction, you have to keep in mind a battle can happen anywhere for just the reason of you being there (Corsairs/AI/Outcasts/SCRA/Nomads (plus Zoners) and Core are at war). The same behaviors is mirrored when I enter the deeper Omicrons or corsair/outcast/SCRA/AI systems.
You and me enjoy PvE as well as most of the players do, but with more factions than just "good" and "evil", as soon as you enter this server, you can be attacked no matter whoever you are, whereever you are and also for very dumb reasons.
I wasn't talking about Corsair. However, it's my main faction. Even I do not think you/core have to gank your enemies, always. and I do not want to change the topic.
and @GuapMan sorry I've to ignore your reply. That seems right to me.
(05-07-2016, 08:41 AM)Darku Wrote: I wasn't talking about Corsair. However, it's my main faction. Even I do not think you/core have to gank your enemies, always. and I do not want to change the topic.
Most battles happen in this Core sector. Some are initiated by Core, some especially by Corsairs. As someone who is rare in other sectors than Delta, I find it really balanced on who starts the gankings.
(05-07-2016, 08:22 AM)GuapMan Wrote: Again i'd disagree to this to a point most of the shootings that happen on us lately have been OORP, and it's quite sad.
It's all went within the Core RP and since when Core player are qqing about high amount of pews?
(05-07-2016, 08:17 AM)Sombra Hookier Wrote: Well, the Core is the only lawful force in the Omicrons.
"Lawfulness" has never really been a too accurate indicator of relations between factions, best examples I know for that are from my immediate surroundings. What makes someone lawful or unlawful? Own agenda being all about caring about the people around you apparently doesn't, nor do diplomatic relations, Council is a populist revolution, and we are allied to houses, but we are still considered unlawfuls. Well, yea, it's a lot easier to find the answer in the case of houses, while both GRN and Council claim to exist and conduct their stuff for the Gallic people, only GRN is affiliated with an existing Gallic Government, thus they are the lawful military, and we are the unlawful.
The Omicrons however don't really have a government, do they? Major military forces are Order and Core, and then from the edges come Outcasts and Corsairs. The latter two doesn't seem to be interested in the Omicrons as much as the former ones, more like about killing eachother and spreading their own stuff (cardamine, artifacts) throughout their own half of Sirius. The Order and Core however seem to be approach the same issue (Nomads) through different means, that and competition for Omicrons in general define their rivalry, and neither of them have a too big navy to roll with.
It's hard to decide whether Order or Core are the more lawfuls in Omicrons, so I'd advice against using the terminology altogether.
(05-07-2016, 08:17 AM)Sombra Hookier Wrote: Well, the Core is the only lawful force in the Omicrons.
"Lawfulness" has never really been a too accurate indicator of relations between factions, best examples I know for that are from my immediate surroundings. What makes someone lawful or unlawful? Own agenda being all about caring about the people around you apparently doesn't, nor do diplomatic relations, Council is a populist revolution, and we are allied to houses, but we are still considered unlawfuls. Well, yea, it's a lot easier to find the answer in the case of houses, while both GRN and Council claim to exist and conduct their stuff for the Gallic people, only GRN is affiliated with an existing Gallic Government, thus they are the lawful military, and we are the unlawful.
The Omicrons however don't really have a government, do they? Major military forces are Order and Core, and then from the edges come Outcasts and Corsairs. The latter two doesn't seem to be interested in the Omicrons as much as the former ones, more like about killing eachother and spreading their own stuff (cardamine, artifacts) throughout their own half of Sirius. The Order and Core however seem to be approach the same issue (Nomads) through different means, that and competition for Omicrons in general define their rivalry, and neither of them have a too big navy to roll with.
It's hard to decide whether Order or Core are the more lawfuls in Omicrons, so I'd advice against using the terminology altogether.
Order are house-wise considered terrorists, while Core tries to establish a "house" in the omicrons with conditions we know from house space. They come from house space, have a support from house forces to a specific point and the difference between Core and Order regarding the nomad topic is: Order actually looks for a solution for the nomad problem and wants to destroy all nomad technology so it doesn't land in the wrong hands. Core uses nomads as an infinite ressource of income (aside from finite Iridium on Nauru), uses nomad technology (nomad adapted weapons at Alabama) to become stronger and shares those materials with all those who can afford it.
It's true, ooRP are Order the good guys, but inRP, seen from house space, Core is the good guys. That's why Core is considered "lawful evil" on pen and paper alignment charts.
(05-07-2016, 08:17 AM)Sombra Hookier Wrote: Well, the Core is the only lawful force in the Omicrons.
"Lawfulness" has never really been a too accurate indicator of relations between factions, best examples I know for that are from my immediate surroundings. What makes someone lawful or unlawful? Own agenda being all about caring about the people around you apparently doesn't, nor do diplomatic relations, Council is a populist revolution, and we are allied to houses, but we are still considered unlawfuls. Well, yea, it's a lot easier to find the answer in the case of houses, while both GRN and Council claim to exist and conduct their stuff for the Gallic people, only GRN is affiliated with an existing Gallic Government, thus they are the lawful military, and we are the unlawful.
The Omicrons however don't really have a government, do they? Major military forces are Order and Core, and then from the edges come Outcasts and Corsairs. The latter two doesn't seem to be interested in the Omicrons as much as the former ones, more like about killing eachother and spreading their own stuff (cardamine, artifacts) throughout their own half of Sirius. The Order and Core however seem to be approach the same issue (Nomads) through different means, that and competition for Omicrons in general define their rivalry, and neither of them have a too big navy to roll with.
It's hard to decide whether Order or Core are the more lawfuls in Omicrons, so I'd advice against using the terminology altogether.
Order are house-wise considered terrorists, while Core tries to establish a "house" in the omicrons with conditions we know from house space. They come from house space, have a support from house forces to a specific point and the difference between Core and Order regarding the nomad topic is: Order actually looks for a solution for the nomad problem and wants to destroy all nomad technology so it doesn't land in the wrong hands. Core uses nomads as an infinite ressource of income (aside from finite Iridium on Nauru), uses nomad technology (nomad adapted weapons at Alabama) to become stronger and shares those materials with all those who can afford it.
It's true, ooRP are Order the good guys, but inRP, seen from house space, Core is the good guys. That's why Core is considered "lawful evil" on pen and paper alignment charts.
Since Houses are originally coming from the sleeperships you cannot "become a house". And Outcasts and Corsairs have a legit House right at this point if other Houses wish to see them as criminals and unlawful it's their right. You have "lawful", "quasi-lawful" and "unlawful" IDs which is not roleplay thing as is. Outcasts will be lawfuls in Omicron Alpha and Core with APM tech are pretty much unlawful there. Don't mix the IDs and an actual laws enforcement along with an RP behind it. Also if you will look at Bretonian diplomacy you will find many interesting things.
(05-07-2016, 08:17 AM)Sombra Hookier Wrote: Well, the Core is the only lawful force in the Omicrons.
"Lawfulness" has never really been a too accurate indicator of relations between factions, best examples I know for that are from my immediate surroundings. What makes someone lawful or unlawful? Own agenda being all about caring about the people around you apparently doesn't, nor do diplomatic relations, Council is a populist revolution, and we are allied to houses, but we are still considered unlawfuls. Well, yea, it's a lot easier to find the answer in the case of houses, while both GRN and Council claim to exist and conduct their stuff for the Gallic people, only GRN is affiliated with an existing Gallic Government, thus they are the lawful military, and we are the unlawful.
The Omicrons however don't really have a government, do they? Major military forces are Order and Core, and then from the edges come Outcasts and Corsairs. The latter two doesn't seem to be interested in the Omicrons as much as the former ones, more like about killing eachother and spreading their own stuff (cardamine, artifacts) throughout their own half of Sirius. The Order and Core however seem to be approach the same issue (Nomads) through different means, that and competition for Omicrons in general define their rivalry, and neither of them have a too big navy to roll with.
It's hard to decide whether Order or Core are the more lawfuls in Omicrons, so I'd advice against using the terminology altogether.
Order are house-wise considered terrorists, while Core tries to establish a "house" in the omicrons with conditions we know from house space. They come from house space, have a support from house forces to a specific point and the difference between Core and Order regarding the nomad topic is: Order actually looks for a solution for the nomad problem and wants to destroy all nomad technology so it doesn't land in the wrong hands. Core uses nomads as an infinite ressource of income (aside from finite Iridium on Nauru), uses nomad technology (nomad adapted weapons at Alabama) to become stronger and shares those materials with all those who can afford it.
It's true, ooRP are Order the good guys, but inRP, seen from house space, Core is the good guys. That's why Core is considered "lawful evil" on pen and paper alignment charts.
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